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    • kiba (OP)
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    October 10, 2010, 07:43:45 PM
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    Time to write a letter to the CCC(Chaos Computer Club). We will also need German translators once the donations and the letter has been finalized. This is the letter adapted from the EFF letter. Feel free to critique and make improvement.

    Dear Chaos Computer Club,

    The Bitcoin community appreciates your efforts to protect electronic liberty and help the internet remain free of censorship and unnecessary intervention.

    Bitcoin < http://bitcoin.org > is a new open-source P2P cryptocurrency system, published under the MIT license.

    There are several enterprises and individuals in the Bitcoin community and growing. We have donated about 600 BTC to date to the EFF, now we wish to donate X amount to you.

    We are certain that you will receive many more in individual donations if you will set up your own bitcoin address and tell people that they can donate to you via bitcoins.

    Warmest regards,

    The Bitcoin community.
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    October 10, 2010, 07:45:14 PM
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    Use this URL precisely:

         http://www.bitcoin.org/

    Using SSL brings up a browser warning, and it's slower anyway.
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    October 10, 2010, 07:46:41 PM
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    Quote from: jgarzik on October 10, 2010, 07:45:14 PM

    Use this URL precisely:

         http://www.bitcoin.org/

    Using SSL brings up a browser warning, and it's slower anyway.

    Updated.
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    October 10, 2010, 10:12:02 PM
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    Quote from: jgarzik on October 10, 2010, 07:45:14 PM
    Using SSL brings up a browser warning, and it's slower anyway.
    Dude, it's the CCC. They know these things and will appreciate to see a HTTPS link.
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    October 10, 2010, 11:48:46 PM
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    Here a draft German translation (while I am still wondering why we translate, because the CCC is fully capable to read and write English!!!)

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    Sehr geehrter Chaos Computer Club,

    Die Bitcoin Gemeinde begruesst Ihre Bemuehungen zum Schutz elektronischer Freiheit. Dies hilft, das Internet von Zensur und unnoetiger Intervention freizuhalten.

    Bitcoin < http://bitcoin.org > ist ein neues, quelloffenes P2P Krypto-Waehrungssystem, publiziert unter der MIT Lizenz.

    Es gibt mittlerwiele schon zahlreiche Unternehmen und Einzelpersonen, und dieser Trend waechst stark. Wir haben zur Foerderung von bitcoins kuerzlich ca. 600 bitcoins (BTC) an den EFF gespendet.

    Jetzt haben wir vor, auch Ihnen X bitoins zu spenden.

    Wir sind uns sicher, dass Sie viele weitere individuelle Spenden erhalten werden, wenn Sie einfach Ihre eigene bitcoin-Adresse erstellen und mitteilen, dass Spenden ueber bitcoins an Sie gehen koennen.

    Mit freundlichen Gruessen,

    Die Bitcoin Gemeinde.
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    One question: Shouldn't we encourage them also to provide us with comments feedback if they have some (and if so, where do we direct them to?)

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    October 11, 2010, 07:42:48 PM
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    It's more like:
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    Zahlreiche Unternehmen und Einzelpersonen sind bereits aktiv bei uns, und vorraussichtlich haelt das Wachstum weiterhin an.

    The rest sounds pretty solid Cheesy
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    October 11, 2010, 07:45:23 PM
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    Thanks a lot. This sounds much better!

    Below is the full, corrected letter.


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    Sehr geehrter Chaos Computer Club,

    Die Bitcoin Gemeinde begruesst Ihre Bemuehungen zum Schutz elektronischer Freiheit. Dies hilft, das Internet von Zensur und unnoetiger Intervention freizuhalten.

    Bitcoin < http://bitcoin.org > ist ein neues, quelloffenes P2P Krypto-Waehrungssystem, publiziert unter der MIT Lizenz.

    Zahlreiche Unternehmen und Einzelpersonen sind bereits aktiv bei uns, und vorraussichtlich haelt das Wachstum weiterhin an. Wir haben zur Foerderung von bitcoins kuerzlich ca. 600 bitcoins (BTC) an den EFF gespendet.

    Jetzt haben wir vor, auch Ihnen X bitoins zu spenden.

    Wir sind uns sicher, dass Sie viele weitere individuelle Spenden erhalten werden, wenn Sie einfach Ihre eigene bitcoin-Adresse erstellen und mitteilen, dass Spenden ueber bitcoins an Sie gehen koennen.

    Mit freundlichen Gruessen,

    Die Bitcoin Gemeinde.

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    October 11, 2010, 07:53:19 PM
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    I'd vote for writing the letter in English or at least not a simple translation.

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    October 11, 2010, 08:12:01 PM
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    i second that,
    not that theres anything wrong with this translation, but i wouldnt talk like that in german to the CCC guys.
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    October 11, 2010, 08:16:24 PM
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    Just a small fragment, might be used on the wiki or website, too.

    Bitcoin < http://bitcoin.org > ist ein junges, quelloffenes Peer-to-Peer Krypto-Währungssystem. Es ist unter der MIT Lizenz verfügbar. Das Netz ist ohne zentrale Institution in der Lage, sicher zu stellen, dass ein Benutzer nur die Bitcoins versenden kann die er auch tatsächlich besitzt. Transaktionen können Weltweit ohne Verzögerung stattfinden. Nach ungefähr einer Stunde sind Transaktionen bestätigt.

    Erfunden wurde das System von Satoshi Nakamoto FIXME:fill_in_date und mitlerweile wird es von zahlreichen Unternehmen und Einzelpersonen aktiv verwendet. Man kann Bitcoins sogar gegen den US-Dollar, Euro oder den Rubel eintauschen -- oder sie erwerben.

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    October 11, 2010, 08:18:54 PM
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    thanks for letting me translating in the middle of the night  Wink

    but all right, I proposed to write them in English myself

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    October 11, 2010, 08:35:25 PM
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    I am attempting to raise money for the CCC in conjunction of making the Bitcoin Mutual Aid Association grow so that we can actually fund projects.

    http://bt.irlbtc.com/view/1432.0
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    October 11, 2010, 11:35:58 PM
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    I remember Wikileaks' headache earlier this year when their Paypal donation account was commandeered and when someone leaked the donors' identities.

    Perhaps we should emphasize that Bitcoin would encourage more donations by protecting the privacy of the donors and so on, using Wikileaks as an example.

    "Ein dezentrales, anonymes System zur Uebertragung von Spenden schuetzt die Privatsphaere der Spender und garantiert, dass das Geld unabhaengig von den Interessen eines Bezahlsystem-Betreibers ankommt."

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    October 12, 2010, 07:35:58 AM
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    Quote from: foreverdamaged on October 11, 2010, 11:35:58 PM
    I remember Wikileaks' headache earlier this year when their Paypal donation account was commandeered and when someone leaked the donors' identities.

    Perhaps we should emphasize that Bitcoin would encourage more donations by protecting the privacy of the donors and so on, using Wikileaks as an example.

    Perhaps we should try to contact wikileaks directly...

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    October 12, 2010, 03:10:19 PM
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    Quote from: caveden on October 12, 2010, 07:35:58 AM
    Quote from: foreverdamaged on October 11, 2010, 11:35:58 PM
    I remember Wikileaks' headache earlier this year when their Paypal donation account was commandeered and when someone leaked the donors' identities.

    Perhaps we should emphasize that Bitcoin would encourage more donations by protecting the privacy of the donors and so on, using Wikileaks as an example.

    Perhaps we should try to contact wikileaks directly...

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    October 15, 2010, 04:15:11 AM
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    So, is anybody going to critque my writing or join the BMAA?  Sad
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    October 15, 2010, 06:40:01 PM
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    Quote from: kiba on October 15, 2010, 04:15:11 AM
    So, is anybody going to critque my writing or join the BMAA?  Sad

    Looks fine to me, I say take point and ship it.
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    October 15, 2010, 08:59:01 PM
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    Quote from: creighto on October 15, 2010, 06:40:01 PM
    Quote from: kiba on October 15, 2010, 04:15:11 AM
    So, is anybody going to critque my writing or join the BMAA?  Sad

    Looks fine to me, I say take point and ship it.


    We still need donations to the CCC.
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    October 17, 2010, 09:23:27 PM
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    Quote from: S3052 on October 11, 2010, 07:45:23 PM
    Jetzt haben wir vor, auch Ihnen X bitoins zu spenden.
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    October 19, 2010, 11:19:26 PM
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    So is the letter perfect or something?
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