Are you sure? The Innosilicon press releases were dated around mid April 2014, where as the KNCMiner Jupiter was shipping in October 2013.

It's good to know that he purposely sent me a miner that wasn't complete even though I paid for it. That should help me win a judgement against him. I have no problem taking a trip to PA.

No one plotted to monitor AMT. Josh was in communication with people of his own free will. Hell he engaged me in conversation. However, when he didn't make good on his end of the purchases those who he was talking too refused to be silent about what he said to them, and surprise some of it was pretty inflammatory.

You don't get to take people's money, deliver faulty or unfinished products, and then flee the country while maintaining the moral high ground. "We did our best", though I'm not sure you were really more than a sole proprietorship, isn't good enough. If a lawsuit with IMET would have paid you enough to refund all your customers then why the hell wouldn't you do that? I hope for the sake of potential customers and your potential worker that you never start up a business again. You obviously don't have the chops to run a company.

So you say, "One day maybe we get our lawsuit with IMET." My question to you is, what if you do and you manage to win? Would you refund the people whose money you took? My guess would be no at this point.

You must think you have the biggest swinginest dick in the world to come in here and talk like this. For fucks sake.

Right, monitoring wasn't part of the plot. We can pull the email from Craig lenell who claims otherwise and post it here if you'd like. You were sent a PSU, just like fuzzy was. And there was no fleeing the country, Josh spent 2 months in china building and shipping miners, making sure it got done. Then went back to Bulgaria for a few months to shut down AMT's outsourced operations there. He also dealt with a divorce and and several other things. "Fleeing the country" is a provocative statement, and made to instigate a reaction. Josh had always lived part time in Bulgaria for the past 6 years due to his former marriage. There was no action of fleeing, he just went home. He ended up getting divorced, loosing his apartment in BG, his wife, and new born kid. You lost 6k? He lost everything.

He's been in Philadelphia since February. The idea that he's fled the country and has a secret mining farm is ridiculous. He's also met with lenell's lawyers in their office face to face on several occasions. AMT's still has the summons and prepared claim, IMET needs to be served and if there is judgement/settlement it will go to repay the clients, so to answer your question, Yes, the idea was to attribute winnings to clients and issue refunds. Reviewing submissions to a public docket doesn't make you an expert on the matter, and listening to a shmuck like Tony Serrata who has is own agenda among other things is ridiculous as well. There is no more AMT, no secret wallets with tons of btc, no one to sue, just a broke guy working as a freelance electrician fixing peoples light switches and home wiring during the day and spending his nights in the bar or on the sofa staring at the bottom of the bottle.

Take what ever money you can afford to gamble with, buy btc and sell between Sept 15-20th. You'll make your 6k back. Or invest in something non-crypto related and open a margin account and long ticker: TZA for the next 2 months, again selling between Sept 15th-20th.
Or sue josh personally, and have his "wages garnished". He'd need to be employed for that one bud. Have you googled his name, if you were an employer would you hire him?

You just got two sure fire ways to make your money back. Use them.

Most states and large metros area have several, just check the phone book or do a search for electronics recycling and the state/city. Definitely needs to be close to you to avoid shipping costs!

Good idea. Where is he hiding at these days?

Thanks all for elaborating. Innosilicon's job on A1 project was to do the proper ASIC and and ship them to whoever wanna design the miners . By the way, we are free to ship in the open market from day 1 and we never shipped one region with better quality ASIC than another region. Any such claim is just fking lie and malicious. Why would we do that? Never! European region to us, are just as important as any other regions in the world. The two chip Reference board we did for A1 we did was only served to evaluate and demo our ASIC and not for production use. As it turned out, companies like Bitmine had very little prior engineering experience and they are not competent to handle the miner production in the end. All in all, engineering is all about knowledge, process and experience. Hard lessons are learnt and it is never easy to get-rich-quickly if you don't really know it.

BTW, Martin from IMET is a cheater and liar. He begged us to ship him a few thousand ASICs to make boards back in March 2014 and promised to pay later. After ASIC arrived, he disappeared. His A1 Miner was too extreme and too hot to be reliable.  He should not be trusted.

After A1 phase, we did 28nm A2 ASIC PLUS the official A2 Terminator miner design together so that there won't be another Bitmine like miner fiasco which hurt ASIC sales, which was better.

The latest development is that we are moving on to the A3 ASIC and A4 ASIC design already. Both in 14nm and already taped out with over 60% power saving over the 28nm generation. Anyone interested in those are free to contact us. I guess we are the 1st to move to 14nm at this point and we are confident A3 and A4 are both gonna work great.

Thanks all for the spirited debate and sharing. God bless!

You're thinking of KnC's 16nm announcements.  BA had announced 14nm, but they abandoned that (if even seriously pursued). LK Group also have 14nm aspirations.

you may have a point, with regard to this case and knowledge, with rik but you cant say the same for me. you have a little more time to do what the court has asked you to do. i suggest you do it. you're drinking too much? that's a shame. send me your address joshua zipkin of AMT Miners. Ill be all too happy to send you a bottle of whatever you want.

i warned you a very long time ago not to fuck with me. you still show no remorse for the money you stole. all i hear, to this day, is excuse after excuse. you deserve everything you have coming to you.

your wife left you? that's a shame. the up side is maybe your son will never see what a scum bag his father is. you see... sometimes things do work out for the best.

you have not lost everything yet; but im working on it.

Your posts read like the Iron Sheik's twitter account. Except you didn't tell zipkin you'd break his back and make him humble.

Correct me if I am wrong, but avengers are heroes born of tragedy and tribulation. Those 6-7 people who got ripped off by AMT (myself among them) had plenty heaped on them because of Josh Zipkin (AMT_miners). I think the picture sums things up as to how he sees us. He must think he is ultron or loki or something. I'll chime in more on what new "items" Zipkin has posted once I have had time to read. Took a break from the forum for a while.