First off, following our interactions I have a great deal of respect.
However, it is my contention (actually the contention of many security experts) that one cannot assure security, but that rather it must be proven over time.

Looking forward to looking stupid.

PS Sorry for pitching hardballs, this thread got a little soft tho

@iotatoken:

thanks

Call for donations and funding!

I will post this here as I am sure there are many Investors that are not reading the whol thread day by day.

There are two important fundraisers going on that both still need more funds.

1.) "The Deal" This is an interesting project. The Devs of Iota have got in contact with some (according to them) really BIG players, who are interested in acquiring a large share of IOTA tokens (25 million). In return they will play a large role for mass adoption of IOTA. So who are "they"? Well that is something only the core devs know at this time, and unfortunately they can't tell us the names without braking the deal.

Also note, every one funding "The Deal" is NOT donating there Iotas but rather selling them. The 25 mill will be sold to "them" and every one that helped fund "The Deal" will get there schare of the proceedings. Though please note the price is not knowen, though it will probably be a bit below market price (what ever that will be).



2.) "The Iota Foundation" is a fundraiser that needs 50 Mill Iota. This will be for the medium and longterm succes of IOTA. The Iota Foundation will secure new partners and drive adoption of IOTA.
     More Info here: http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/iota-foundation-announcement/174



Why you should help with the funding? Here is my point of view on it, out of a speculators perspective.

 The moment I invested money into the Iota ICO, I had to blindly trust the Iota devs that they will stay true on there promise to deliver the IOTA program. As it appears they did a good job and the Investments already multilpyed by x20 if you take the recent OTC trades into account.
So I for my self donated 20% of my IOTA. 10% to the foundation, 10% to "The Deal". Why? By doing so I see a great chance that if "The deal" workes out and it is as big as it sounds like , that the rest of my IOTA will gain much more value then the 10% I contributed (wihich is actually same as selling). So Risk Reward is very good on this one. Also, if I trusted the devs once, I have no reason to not trust them with this.
Same is foundation, if IOTA has a foundation backing it, it will be taken much more seriously, which will more then likely will have a direkt affect on the value of IOTA.

My personal judgement,I might be wrong, should none of the two projects get funded then its even verry good possible that current prices cant be sustained and go down a bit. So its in every ones interest that we get thisfunded!

Your contribution is very much appreciated!

Current status of the funding: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17d2k_0Xgy2SSFx6NWx2xyrgF9pFcs_Mr-GgVg5Uvzjw/edit?ts=56eac2b7#gid=0


P.s.To all: Please note that I have not invested in Iota only fore the profit. Much more I invested into it because of the Idea behind it.
Never the less I am still a speculator ; )

Thanks for the reply:

2. Dominik and Stas? Who are they in relation to IOTA?
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4. A little vague but cool… Dragon's Den investors probably twitching a bit tho, but what do they…

Thanks David, you're a brave one (no sarcasm meant)

I will repeat following on every page here until we complete one of the fundraisers successfully. If thats okay with the Iota team?

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Call for donations and funding!

I will post this here as I am sure there are many Investors that are not reading the whol thread day by day.

There are two important fundraisers going on that both still need more funds.

1.) "The Deal" This is an interesting project. The Devs of Iota have got in contact with some (according to them) really BIG players, who are interested in acquiring a large share of IOTA tokens (25 million). In return they will play a large role for mass adoption of IOTA. So who are "they"? Well that is something only the core devs know at this time, and unfortunately they can't tell us the names without braking the deal.

Also note, every one funding "The Deal" is NOT donating there Iotas but rather selling them. The 25 mill will be sold to "them" and every one that helped fund "The Deal" will get there schare of the proceedings. Though please note the price is not knowen, though it will probably be a bit below market price (what ever that will be).



2.) "The Iota Foundation" is a fundraiser that needs 50 Mill Iota. This will be for the medium and longterm succes of IOTA. The Iota Foundation will secure new partners and drive adoption of IOTA.
     More Info here: http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/iota-foundation-announcement/174



Why you should help with the funding? Here is my point of view on it, out of a speculators perspective.

 The moment I invested money into the Iota ICO, I had to blindly trust the Iota devs that they will stay true on there promise to deliver the IOTA program. As it appears they did a good job and the Investments already multilpyed by x20 if you take the recent OTC trades into account.
So I for my self donated 20% of my IOTA. 10% to the foundation, 10% to "The Deal". Why? By doing so I see a great chance that if "The deal" workes out and it is as big as it sounds like , that the rest of my IOTA will gain much more value then the 10% I contributed (wihich is actually same as selling). So Risk Reward is very good on this one. Also, if I trusted the devs once, I have no reason to not trust them with this.
Same is foundation, if IOTA has a foundation backing it, it will be taken much more seriously, which will more then likely will have a direkt affect on the value of IOTA.

My personal judgement,I might be wrong, should none of the two projects get funded then its even verry good possible that current prices cant be sustained and go down a bit. So its in every ones interest that we get thisfunded!

Your contribution is very much appreciated!

Current status of the funding: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17d2k_0Xgy2SSFx6NWx2xyrgF9pFcs_Mr-GgVg5Uvzjw/edit?ts=56eac2b7#gid=0


P.s.To all: Please note that I have not invested in Iota only fore the profit. Much more I invested into it because of the Idea behind it.
Never the less I am still a speculator ; )

I will also increase my donation.

I have currently donated 10% of my holdings to the deal.

Yassin, I would like to donate another 400,000 IOTA to the foundation. This brings my total donation to 20%.

Since I am not a developer, and I am occupied with my full time job, I feel this is the best way I can contribute. If everyone else does the same, we will easily fund both goals.

DONATE SO WE CAN DO THIS!!!

Yes, what ever is thought to be best. Maybe my post also isn't written very well, that might well be.
Still I think a reminder/info should be through out the thread so that those that bought and just take a peak here once in a while will see the fundraiser.





Great! Thank you very much!!!
If every one dose this, we will reach both goals easely.

It's not cryptographical security, so "security thru obscurity" argument is not applicable here.

I'd like to move my 50k pledge from the foundation to the Deal, and add 20k for the foundation

That Great idea!!