Claim iotas again if they haven't appeared. In the worst case you'll get your share doubled.

Also agree.

It's impossible.

ICO that didn't raise enough for ongoing development, followed by a foundation & donation funding model that leads to bitterness and people leaving ... hate to tell you iotatoken but it looks like YOU already decided on the NXT approach for everyone else already

why didn't you just add a 5% premine?

will there be an IOTA 2.0 once you realise the error?

The idea behind a no premine is great.

But things can change along the way, no big deal imo.


Lets just do a 5% premine, no hastle everybody donates the same, small or big holder. It is in everybodies best interest.

I think it also will have a positive effect, since it will mean moving forward.


We are all part of this great project. I think if more that 50% wants a premine, lets do it and move on.

I'll donate my 5%, but a lot wont, and it'll be messy and painful, and maybe we don't reach the target and IOTA implodes. Plenty will try and free-ride, and we're all victims of the tragedy of the commons now.

If a community decides something is needed, like hospitals, schools, roads, law courts etc they work out how much it will cost, then they devise a 'fair' and efficient system of compulsory taxation to raise that amount of money. That's the best way. Donation based funding models are much harder.

A 5% premine isn't such a bad thing IMO

Yes, I definitely agree with you

I can understand why (psychologically) it is the best solution to ask for the needed donations from the community, as it shows engagement, support, it would clearly show that the community recognises and honours the great works being developed in IOTA (and it is undoubtful that these are amazing good and competent works).

The only thing I don't feel comfortable with is the way this donation request has been put (I am sincere when I say I feel menaced with the way the community "leaders" started to behave after the donation issue was brought). In such situations I naturally tend to dissent... oh boy, I don't accept being totally subject to my country's government threats, why would I submit to any others?

But, still, I understand that this is simply a "communication problem", and I prefer to believe that their intention is not threatening. OK. So, I told myself: overcome all this and do your best for the community.

I hope all other sincere IOTA community members will have the wisdom to make their best decision.

Anyway, even though the best case scenario would be the community recognition by the needed donations, if there is no other way, I agree that the "premine" solution above would be the rational one. And if there's an eventual "lack of recognition" from the community, this recognition will surely come when IOTA proves itself.

I would only like to request that people here abandoned this hypocritical "speculator" talk, for it helps nothing to the cohesion of the community. The community should grow, and not shink

Peace will bring us much more fruits than fights.

Just to say everybody IOTAERS, Solidarity!!!

Check my post if you can donate some IOTA, or wait Release!!  

https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/1216479.msg15007209#msg15007209