Good Post! I totally agree

What's up? You need a guide to installing your node?

You even can become an active delegate on your own test network if you login to the genesis account, vote with it for your test node and deselect some of the genesisDelegates.

This is bullshit. Bter is bullshit.

I have 70 odd UNITY on Bter which I have been trying to withdraw for over a month. It's gone missing and I haven't had a single reply to any of the dozens of support tickets and emails I've sent them.

It's not just me, others have problems getting their QORA, XMR and other coins out.

We're supposed to believe that Bter has it's customer's best interests at heart and is working over time on their behalf when they can't/won't even sort out tiny withdrawal problems for weeks at a time?

Fuck them, don't let them anywhere near Lisk. They are crooks, thieves, charlatans, liars.

Fuck them, fuck them, fuck them.... do I make myself clear?

http://themerkle.com/bter-struggles-with-certain-withdrawals/

who in his right mind would use BTER? Withdraws are not wokring from months, everyone should stay away from bter.

Let me just make a few general comments and observations.  

Lots of people are talking about becoming delegates.  This is good.  

Many of these are saying (in one way or another), "Vote for me and I will give you a cut of the rewards" or "I won't vote for anybody that doesn't give me a cut of forging rewards".  This is bad.

The first job of a Lisk Active Delegate is SECURE THE LISK BLOCKCHAIN.  Not make money for themselves.  Not make money for others.  SECURE THE LISK BLOCKCHAIN.

I'm no different from anybody else.  You offer me money, I'll take it, and I'll take it if I am voted to be an Active Delegate.  But I argued early on with Max that offering forging rewards in Lisk was a mistake.  I finally shut up because Lisk is his coin and not mine, and I have been known to be wrong occasionally.  

Crypti is a pure non-inflationary Proof of Stake (PoS) coin with Delegated Proof of Stake (DPoS) voting.

Lisk is an inflationary Proof of Work (PoW) coin with Delegated Proof of Stake With Forging Rewards (DPoSWFR) voting.  

DPoSWFR has the single advantage of offering a motivation for somebody to become an Active Delegate and put up a Lisk node.

DPoSWFR has several disadvantages.  DPoSWFR puts additional new votes and voting power directly and solely in the hands of the 101 Delegates who need votes to stay in their position of power (oligarchy).  DPoSWFR motivates the creation by one individual of multiple declared or even covert sock-puppet accounts to receive multiple rewards (monopoly crime), at the expense of Lisk node decentralization.  DPoSWFR encourages a "miner-get-rich-quick" mentality (greed) that detracts from and even subverts the delegate prime directive of SECURE THE LISK BLOCKCHAIN.  And DPoSWFR creates a motivational gap between Active Delegates running nodes for 150K Crypti in Year One, and Standby Delegates running nodes for no reward at all (income disparity).

People tend to think of Crypti as a "loser".  In fact Crypti had many successes and things to admire.  These include being a non-inflationary coin; the development of sidechains dapps by Version 0.5.5; and finally, making true strides towards being a DPoS system with altruistic, unpaid delegates who did their job with no forging rewards.  I have a whole side post I believe is worth reading on this topic, "The Truth About Delegates" :

https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/1346646.msg13832600#msg13832600  

The cost of running 1 or even 101 DPoS cloud VPS or Raspberry Pi 2 Lisk nodes is negligible overhead in today's world, both for individuals who believe in Lisk enough to run a single node, and for the upcoming Lisk billion-dollar financial sidechain-dapp ecosystem that could pay for running all 101 of them.  

This fact is the key to getting away from Bitcoin and Ethereum mining farms, whether ASIC or GPU based. This fact is the key to the future.  

I still think altruistic unpaid delegates would have been the best path for Lisk, however long it would take to find them.   Instead, we have greedy paid delegates.  

So be it.  But never forget this system is a choice, and alternatives exist.

And also never forget, the delegate prime directive is SECURE THE LISK BLOCKCHAIN.  Not "make money".

Really and thats why Bter is full of (lets not say bad words here ***) They should just be removed from the ICO and asked to never
ever add Lisk to there exchange.

Save a lot of people there money.

i doubt if i would sell at 1 million satoshi or not

No im not

That the problem you cant see what they own who!

So as i see it there are 2 options;

1..You allow there Ico, you give them the coins they can give it to there people (but hey they didnt allow withdraws so why would they now) and there is a possibility that they even will dump all coins, cause i doubt they really care look how they handle there people.

2..You give them back there Xcr and make a statement why and that Lisk doesnt want to be assosiated with anything like this.

both have there advantage and disadventage