I think if we can get a stable wallet - I'm sure people would donate to the cause - there is no point in listing with a wallet that isn't stable

But it said he ran away with people's money. You surely want him to have more time for Qora now?

Time to address all the people sucking up to Crowetic.

I started with Burst October of last year.  I spent quite a bit of money to set up a Burst mining rig.  All my Burst went into Assets, 4 of which are run by Crowetic.

Adam came into the picture and eventually Crowetic left Burst forum and joined Adam at BurstNation.  I followed them there.  I found out a short time later that Crowetic did not make a graceful exit from Burst Forum.

Crowetic ended up getting involved with a guy called nameless, who issued an asset, of which I also had shares in.  Nameless got Crowetic to invest in some ventures (I don't have details of all the ventures).

Some funny shit went down, and next thing you know, both Adam and Crowetic are blaming each other for shit.  Thing is, Crowetic DID IN FACT take the escrow from Burst assets and some other asset funds and together with Nameless, they attempted to suppress the price of Burstcoin, which ended up backfiring and they lost all the Burst.

There was also an issue with the pools being DDOS'ed and Crowetic admitted to being part of that.  I'm sure Adam did the same thing.

Now, even though what Crowetic did with the funds from the escrow and other funds was wrong, I wasn't angry.  People make mistakes and I had faith that he would make things right.

Crowetic paid the funds back, but it seems he got the funds from selling other assets and issuing a new asset for equipment to set up more mining rigs.

Up to this point... I had no issues with Crowetic, I was still buying shares.

But then, a week after pushing people to buy shares in his new asset... The BOMB dropped!!
Crowetic drafted a "Leaving Burst" letter, in which he lists all kinds of reasons for leaving Burst and buying back all his assets, which he posted online.

Now, in itself, I don't blame Crowetic for leaving Burst.  Many people lost trust in Crowetic.

MY issue, is that instead of doing the honorable thing and buying those shares back at a fair price, he offered a small fraction of their real value.
Considering the prices had already suffered due to Crowetics and Adams battle, to get such a low ball offer for buyback was insulting, to say the least.  Mind you, some of the players that had large stakes in his assets were offered pretty generous buybacks.

To my knowledge, only Haitch refused to accept the offer, in return for his silence.  Haitch then posted that Crowetic had offered him and other large asset holders a more generous buyback if they didn't tell the other asset holders.

I have also been a part of Qora for a long time.  Why?  Because I believed in Crowetic and so I bought Qora.  Even when it was dropped from Poloniex, I still kept them.

Crowetic had no time for Qora when he was in Burst.  Yeah, a quick message every 3,4,5 months, but nothing real.
Then as Crowetic is leaving Burst, he reaches out and tells this group that he now has 4 full time devs working on the wallet.

Behind the scenes... Crowetic was looking for a new project (not Qora) and he happened upon SIGT.  He offered his services to the dev team, and not knowing what he had done in Burst, they accepted him on.
It didn't take long for someone to let the devs in on what Crowetic did in Burst AND the fact the FBI are involved.

News of Crowetics involvement in SIGT was not appreciated in the community and you can imagine the postings in their forum.
The devs have come out and said that because of what they learned, Crowetic is no longer involved with SIGT.
There is some distrust in SIGT because Crowetic was involved, even though it was short lived.

Soooo.... There you have it.  FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE from someone that got shafted by Crowetic.

If Crowetic had given we asset holders a fair buyout, I would have said, give him a chance to prove himself.
But since he intentionally screwed us over, I don't trust him do what is best for Qora.
For me, you don't screw over people that believed in you.

Just look at his postings...
Buying Qora for 1 sat 2 sats 3 sats 4 sats
So he does nothing, people lose faith, then they give up and want to get rid of their Qora.
And Mr. Wonderful buys them from you for next to nothing.
Then.....  I'm sure the new wallet shows up shortly, the price jumps, and Crowetic makes a killing.

I'm in agreement that we need to find a new dev, and maybe even someone that could be the voice of qora, who would also keep the community updated in regards to the dev(s) progress.

We all know that as soon as we have a working wallet, we can get listed on an exchange.
STOP waiting for Crowetic to spare a few precious minutes to decide whether or not he wants to do something for Qora.

DO IT YOURSELF!!!
DO IT NOW!!!

The client itself is top notch, it just has a little issue which can be fixed (for now) with minimal effort. It has great features (blogging, voting, issuing assets, to name a few), and it really doesn't need much of a vision. Everything that's needed (at least for now) is that one freaking fix which we're being stalled upon since months. That's what makes things annoying.
If this little thing is fixed, we could start approaching exchanges again, and I'm pretty sure we'd get that coin listed. The rest would come from alone, the network would grow again and then, we can think about how to move on further.

Help was offered, on multiple occasions, but (indirectly) denied by Crowe. But we're about to start a new approach, hoping it won't be a waste of time, again. Because it's such a waste to let an otherwise solid project rot to death, just because "someone" cannot accept that he cannot handle 74 projects at a time. At least not properly.

What QORA needs now is one simple fix which would resolve our current problem. What it doesn't need is empty promises of dedicated manpower equaling a small company just to develop the coin, and half assed progress, with the compiling of a jar alone taking three weeks and more.


I hope this post doesn't sound too harsh. But for now, I decided to stop celebrating updates and announcements, but instead only get excited when things actually happen.

I agree, time to get excited when stuff is delivered, not just promised, and I don't care who is delivering really, and will gladly pay whoever is actually doing good work for Qora.

In ALL of cryptosphere there is no other coin quite like Qora, with such obvious potential, but still hasn't achieved anything significant.

It's Time!

The man who has signed up dev writes that they are working on development, unfortunately promises for quora we have seen for over a year. Where are some evidence of this hard work?

@crowetic

Sigh. I explained it in several posts, already. Help was offered. Help from a competent Java developer who actually knows his stuff, and who is familiar with the source code of the QORA client. He tried and tried, talked to Crowe, did anything humanly possible to get involved and be allowed to deploy that single fix for that bug.

It's not that anyone is waiting for it to "happen on its own". The problem is, Crowe won't let others help get it done, while everyone and his mother is trying to convince him to accept the help he's being offered since ages.

It looks like the only way to go ahead is to fork Qora and start it over leaving old dev(s) behind

This sounds like a good idea to me.