December 22, 2011

They said it would take 2 weeks for their customers to have the units.
So, i will start calling them scammers in 20 days (20 of January + 20 days ~= 10 of February).

I will start planning for my own ASIC at the time. LOL.

You better starting to count when you get a track en trace number offered by them... otherwise you are waiting completely for nothing to arrive...

Guess what..    they didn,t give anyone anything sofar so u can call it a mf scam already..or are you serious about waiting untill 10 feb. before you believe they run the fuck off  

Yes, they don't have my money so i don't care.

I'm sorry in case you guys will lose something, but i warned you and said to sell your preorders (for like 5000$/unit) and i even betted against them shipping on the 20th. I tried to do my part. In case they can prove to have the ASICs working and shipping they will have my money on the second batch.

Guise, cool down a bit.  jgarzik may just be protecting his package by withholding information about the arrival date or tracking number.  He does post with his real name (right?) and maybe someone's dug up his address.  Imagine if he can't get the day off and DHL has to do the "stuff the box under the mat" trick with the ASIC delivery.  I can't blame him for wanting to protect his privacy.

(Frizz just posted above me - in case jgarzik's home address is known even anonymized information makes him still vulnerable to someone trying to intercept his box).

Of course at least one or more persons that use the jgarzik account exist. How do you think posts from that account appear? By magic?

When he or they receive the Avalon unit and review it, there will be a post about it. So calm down.

I presume that the Chinese customs inspectors don't steal the ASICs and start mining with them, so that might be your explanation of why the hashrate isn't rising before the first customers have received their product.

I know that a new computer product coming into China gets inspected for CCC compliance, but I wonder to what degree they care about a new exported product. It is a sort of crypto brute forcing hardware though, so if any technology arouses suspicion on export, it would be this.

Actually that is not always the case, it depends on how they get the packages to DHL. In the example I quoted earlier, if you use an
HK forwarder and release the shippment from Hong Kong Port, then it's only once the packages are on the hands of DHL in HK that you can start tracking online (also depends on where you generate the paperwork before you even know the tracking number).

There are tons of things that can delay the white van driver to get to HK in the first place, customs would be one of them if the export papers are not in order.

Especially this being the first time they do such a shipment, there might be a bit of a learning curve and the pre-orders are the victim. Valuable time could get lost this way, but there is not much that can be done. I would also not start posting publicly about such a goof up, I'd try to fix things first...

I think there is a large culture difference between how US and Chinese companies handle their communications, either publish everything in the open with pictures and make loads of noise versus getting things done, ability and perseverance in the face of hardship.

Could it possibly be that they are unwilling to risk large numbers of ASIC devices and instead used Jeff and the Bitcoin foundations device as the pilot package to figure out where the troubles might be with customs?

If so, then they probably did ship the two packages but are waiting to see the results before risking the rest of the batch by putting it in transit through customs. Perhaps in the meantime they are building the other units and waiting for the results?