And to preemptively respond to AlexGR, his victims are every person who has ever used Dash thinking their transactions would be private or untraceable. He's a snake oil salesman.
But that is not the same as ripping off people's money. That is just a shitcoin, which is not the criteria here.
We don't know if those who claim to be Evan supporters are sockpuppets and/or those insiders who profited on the scheme.
The real victims are those who have sold for less than they paid at the expense of the insiders who sell to pocket Bitcoin and then get the DRK tokens back again for free via their control over masternodes. It is an endless supply of new fools who might actually be HODLing for the Evolutoin P&D, and their funds are being given to the insiders. They all hope there are some greater fools to sell the Evolution pump to. In short, there can't be a non-manipulated market in this current scam structure.
If someone is negatively biased, he will find anything he wants to crucify another. For example:
Say an investor or Evan sells some of his coins: "Ohhh he dumped and got a profit, scamming others"
Say an investor or Evan keeps his coins in MNs: "Ohhh he is profiting from the MNs, perpetuating the scam"
See? You can't win in this game. You are always at the mercy of an accuser.
When are you going to stop being disingenuous? Is this the way your criminal mindset really operates?
The issue is that Evan lied to the community and set up a premine as an instamine and is still lying about it. And on top of that he set up a masternode funnel which directs the tokens continuously back to the insiders and he even lied for one year about the security of the masternodes in the InstantX white paper until I found the high school level math error. This instamine+masternode funnel ostensibly enables them to control the float and run P&D price manipulation which enables them to direct the capital inflow from speculators maximally into their own pockets in a manipulated market.
There is a reason that these activities are illegal in the USA under the 1930s Securities Act.
Same for bitcoin... You could say Satoshi ...solomined like 1mn coins, so every single bitcoiner is immoral for even accepting such a scheme where the creator is a billionaire. You can also say Satoshi is immoral himself for not destroying his coins. You can say he is a scammer because of P&Ds.... you can say all sorts of things.
Satoshi didn't run an instamine. He published it for everyone and the mining was available to people with a CPU for a year.
How disingenuous can you be to equate two situations which are not at all analogous.
Tomorrow you'll be making your own crypto or crypto-platform.
You've already stated your intention to not inform this community. I can already tell you, that, in accordance with the unwritten "terms of fairness", you can be called by someone else, as a scammer stealth miner.
Haha. Watch and learn something. I challenge you to make that claim. Because I will have some data to make you eat your claim.
You are saying you are talking with ...investors... You can be accused of setting up a scam with whales
There will be no whales in my work on crypto token unless they buy on a free market post launch. Please stay on topic about Dash.
, a scam that will profit the early investors at the expense of the later investors - who of course weren't notified of your project, so that they can not participate from the beginning... You can also be accused of being purposefully negative in all things related to other crypto with the malicious intent of profiting from promoting your own superior "solution".
You are promoting my work. I didn't mention it here. I would prefer you stay on topic about Dash.
When it comes to mining, if you choose cpu mining, you'll be called a scammer because a) "oh it's all botnets" or b) as soon as a more evolved version of the miner comes out someone will imply that you had such a more evolved cpu miner all along, helping you stealthmine your own coin. If you go GPU, which naturally takes some time to get up to speed in new algos in terms of optimization, you can again be called a scammer for the same reason. You could even be accused of colluding with FPGA programmers to solomine at extreme speeds, since you had foreknowledge of your algo specs. The list can go on and on and on. Like, how is your own compensation going to work?
Suggestion to think some more until you figure out what I am doing.
Monero has had some accusations due to inheriting an unoptimized Cryptonite hash from Bytecoin which they did not optimize until after the launch. Nevertheless the coin was not instamined and the fairness of the hash has long since been dealt with. And thus Monero has the lowest scam rating on the poll and I did and Dash the highest. And Monero being an non-manipulated market has finally broken out of the downwedge (as priced in BTC) and is now in a long-term bullish formation w.r.t. to BTC. I don't own any Monero.
If you have investor money, then obviously someone can control you based on the control of money. So you are selling out your user base to your investors. If you do an ICO, you can be called a scammer due to the way coins are created by the move of a magic wand, central-bankers style. If you do a premine, you can be called a scammer. If you take whale donations you can be accused of getting immoral benefits for behind-the-scenes deals.
Or you can sell shares in a for-profit company and make the token a separate item.
Even if you work for 0$ and make a coin and get nothing for it, and I mean absolutely nothing, one can still call you a scammer. Why? Because coins that have a development plan are going to have development announcements. Thus the dev is always ahead of the market by knowing (inside info) what is being worked upon. When he makes an announcement that "we'll be releasing this fantastic feature tomorrow" and the market goes +30% or +100%, he can go long and profit through insider trading.
Yep. And the SEC has regulations against this. Developers better be damn careful about their trades, because the government is standing aside letting everyone in our community incriminate themselves and post 2018 they will coming after everyone with the investigations.
Nobody even needs to prove you are actually trading your coin or project. By the mere fact that you have inside info that is pumping the market on its announcement, you can be accused for betting on your foreknowledge of events.
A developer can merely respond that they have a record of all their trades and when prompted by the appropriate authorities, they can make these records available in private to those regulators.
Best is make sure the coin is finished asap, and so you don't need to continue to develop it. This is why developing a coin with a separation-of-concerns and plugins is an important innovation. As I said, watch and learn.
And, people can craft arguments that can lock you in as a scammer, no matter what you do. If you do A, they'll say you are a scammer. If you do the opposite (B), they can also say you are a scammer. Thus no matter what you do, they'll cry "scam".
So let's deal with more tangible things, relative to this list, like, did Evan rip anyone off? The answer is NO.
The typical criminal mind employs this illogic of equating rape to
swimming in a pool where a boy ejaculated.
Does he belong in a list with ...Karpeles? FFS, the answer is obvious.
Absolutely yes. Evan is a bit more clever than Mark Karpeles, but they both scam the Bitcoin community.
Edit: AlexGR, please don't equate a developer taking say 1% of the coins for his efforts which does not give him any control to do P&D price manipulation, to the 33% instamine of Dash (ostensibly for the insiders) and probably well in excess of 50% of the coin supply given the masternode funnel design.
