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Topic: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation (Read 171604 times)

Admiral_Bit

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Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 10:07:22 AM

#1601

Beware of price gouging!!!

I´d like to remind all potential buyers of the fact, that all IOTA OTC offers on BTCtalk are way beyond any reasonable market price . Before you buy from OTC sellers keep in mind that the current offers reflect a projected initial market cap of 15 - 30 million $. Price markups reach from 2000% - 4000% on the initial ICO price. --> The price your seller actually payed for his coins.

There is not one single crypto or oldschool derivate which would have justified an ICO or IPS surcharge of over 2000 %. Remember; Bitcoin uplift took several years; Etherium exchange price was way below current IOTA ICO price multiplicators

It just does not happen on this planet... If you buy 100Gigiota for 1,5 BTC now you will get ripped off and it will take months of market time to recover from your financial quick shot.

As for a serious suggestion: Wait to buy IOTA until they are traded on the exchanges. All market rules indicate an exchange price which does not exceed 100GIOTA 0,5 BTC.

Right now OTC sellers can be devided into 1 of the following strategies:

1. Seller believes that exchange price will be way lower than rigged OTC offers on Bitcointalk. If this would not be the case, seller would wait until the sale on exchange markets
2. Seller believes that the outlook on IOTAS potential is overall limited and expects an early crash. Selling via OTC has biggest potential of ROI

Consider; what other reason would a seller have to offer IOTAS at the current price? If prices on exchanges happen to magically multiply by 3 - 10 times of current OTC price (this would constitute an initial exchange markup of 6000 % to 40000% compared to ICO), why would anyone sell now? Charity?

You see; none of the offers here will lead you to quick ROI. Every investment into a new cryto coin comes along with a certain degree of risk. Buying OTC prices will multiply your risk. Believe me; risk assessments are part of my daily business....

Conclusion: All IOTA OTC offers on BTCtalk are intransparent, rigged and overpriced.

Think now; thank me later. If you think my post is FUD just recalculate your risk for yourself...

gernat

Member

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www.iota.org

Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 10:18:44 AM

#1602

Again bullshit from you? Our dev has already wrote for those who do not know you:

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on July 14, 2016, 07:41:49 AM

Quote from: Admiral_Bit on July 14, 2016, 07:36:19 AM

I'd like to remind that Admiral_Bit was caught on outright lies several times, his words need extra verification.

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LiQio

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Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 10:47:22 AM

#1603

Quote from: Admiral_Bit on July 14, 2016, 10:07:22 AM

[...]
Believe me; risk assessments are part of my daily business....
[...]

Interesting, what kind of risks do you assess?

mladen00

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K-ing®

Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 10:51:29 AM

#1604

Quote from: LiQio on July 14, 2016, 10:47:22 AM

Quote from: Admiral_Bit on July 14, 2016, 10:07:22 AM

[...]
Believe me; risk assessments are part of my daily business....
[...]

Interesting, what kind of risks do you assess?

he has Rise coin Cheesy

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TwinWinNerD

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Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 10:54:25 AM

#1605

Quote from: Admiral_Bit on July 14, 2016, 08:33:51 AM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on July 13, 2016, 01:14:11 PM

Quote from: Admiral_Bit on July 13, 2016, 12:29:49 PM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on July 13, 2016, 12:05:11 PM

wait so Admiral thinks it will be at below 0.5 BTC 100 Giota 24hours after launch.

How much do you want to bet on that? I demand full escrow of the bet because I don't trust you a sinlge bit.

Regards

I am going to accept this bet. Escrowed of course:

Bet Details:

Admiral_Bit and TwinWinNerD will each place 0,5 BTC into Escrow

If IOTA is under 0,5 btc per 100 Giota 24 hours after start of trading on Poloniex, Admiral_Bit wins 1 BTC, minus Escrow fee
If IOTA is over 0,5 btc per 100 Giota 24 hours after start of trading on Poloniex, TwinWinNerD wins 1 BTC minus Escrow fee

Escrow must not be a current IOTA OTC seller

Do we have a deal?

Sounds good. We can even increase the betsize if you want.

Please suggest an escrow, I have worked with SebastianJu last and had a pleasant experience.

Still no bet confirmation by TwinWinNerD. Escrow is ready.

Seems like OTC sellers dont believe their own stories..

Just sent the confirmation to SebastianJu. Sorry for the delay Wink

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marechoux

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Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 11:03:24 AM

#1606

@Admiral bit

It is your right to think the price of IOTA is too high.

It is your right to warn people if you believe the price in uncorrelated with real value.

It is NOT right to spam the thread with your posts and flooding all other potentially interesting info with your troll spamming.

In every thread there is one or few trolls, now we have Admiral bit, he deserves the title very well.

Hey 1st time you won a competition I guess? Congrats !

Seccour (OP)

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Bitcoiner, Crypto-anarchist and Cypherpunk.

Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 11:15:05 AM

#1607

This is priceless guys :

Don't forget to put me in your Trust list ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust ) to see scammers account with a negative trust so you know that there are scammers ( no negative trust != trustworthy ).

And don't relay on quotes !

Quote from: Seccour . on July 14, 2016, 07:38:15 AM

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Quote from: ***** on July 14, 2016, 04:18:53 AM

Update:

Want to sell:

~~1x 500 GIota for 5BTC~~ sold
1x 500 GIota for 5BTC
1x 500 GIota for 5BTC

Escrow only with Seccour.

Thank you very much.

This user is a Legendary Member. If you are expecting a message from this member then it is genuine !!!

Hi *****,

Ill take the 2 X 500 GIota @ 10BTC for myself.

Hope you are OK with me Escrowing the sale

My Iota Address :

AXIUAWI9SJMKHQQXAW9KIFKNZKNQUPISMSEYGBKJYFXLUMRCYKMSYLJFPZUUFWWHCBGFGO9TAGAJEYZ DCAMWNWPHM9

After transfer just drop me a pm with your BTC address and ill get right over to you.

Cheers,
Seccour

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Admiral_Bit

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Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 11:17:47 AM

#1608

Quote from: marechoux on July 14, 2016, 11:03:24 AM

You see; over here it works like this:

- The OTC sellers are the butchers
- The buyers are the chicken
- I am the PETA activist

Chicken are unable to defend themselves, so someone has to step in for their safety... --> Who you ganna call?

Unfortunately you have already been butchered, so there is nothing i can do for you anymore. But I wont accept anymore scalped chicken. The line must be drawn here...

Come-from-Beyond

Legendary

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Newbie

Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 11:19:13 AM

#1609

Quote from: Admiral_Bit on July 14, 2016, 08:16:54 AM

Well potential potential buyers; look at what happens after you became a headless chicken. You become a piece of meat, advertising a similar fate.
@ Potential buyers don´t listen to headless chicken. Their ability to think is highly impaired...

Could you provide something that proves your words? After you lied and bragged about that everyone will question your words... but you are not surprised of this outcome, are you?

TwinWinNerD

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Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 11:24:02 AM

#1610

Just paid my 1 BTC into the escrow, waiting for Admiral to send.

Regards

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Admiral_Bit

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Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 11:24:24 AM

#1611

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on July 14, 2016, 11:19:13 AM

Quote from: Admiral_Bit on July 14, 2016, 08:16:54 AM

Could you provide something that proves your words? After you lied and bragged about that everyone will question your words... but you are not surprised of this outcome, are you?

Didnt you say you wouldnt react to my Posts anymore?

Im so on the edge of glory right now...

PondSea

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Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 11:24:33 AM

#1612

I am preety sure if the op asks him to leave and he doesnt we can report to mods to get his account banned.

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Come-from-Beyond

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Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 11:26:02 AM

#1613

Quote from: Admiral_Bit on July 14, 2016, 11:24:24 AM

Didnt you say you wouldnt react to my Posts anymore?

Im so on the edge of glory right now...

I said I wouldn't tease you, do you see the difference?

Admiral_Bit

Sr. Member

Activity: 448
Merit: 252

Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 11:27:53 AM

#1614

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on July 14, 2016, 11:26:02 AM

Quote from: Admiral_Bit on July 14, 2016, 11:24:24 AM

Didnt you say you wouldnt react to my Posts anymore?

Im so on the edge of glory right now...

I said I wouldn't tease you, do you see the difference?

well thats teasing...

Admiral_Bit

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Activity: 448
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Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 11:32:43 AM

#1615

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on July 14, 2016, 11:24:02 AM

Just paid my 1 BTC into the escrow, waiting for Admiral to send.

Regards

The deal is off! I was not included in the signed message. I was called XXXBuyerXXX

No deal!, No Bet!

Admiral_Bit

Sr. Member

Activity: 448
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Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 11:33:36 AM

#1616

banqueiro

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cryptoPag.com

Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 11:35:08 AM

#1617

Update

Current sell offer:

25 GIGAiotas = 0.85 btc (price 0.034 btc per Giota).

Ongoing deal:

100 GIGAiotas = 3.1 btc - buyer: nickelback65 escrow: Seccour - status: BTC received at escrow account;

Successfully concluded deals:

250 GIGAiotas = 5.25 btc, escrow: Seccour[/i]. Thank you - IOTA hash: UHCYYLEEQHUFNR9PJOKUQKWC9MPLQNMEPTOCOKDHSMTFHVGIFSKLYCOOHG9JKCEDGKNEH9HWAZNEC99 99;
125 GIGAiotas = 4 btc, escrow: yassin54. Thank you - IOTA hash: LYOVTCXXHPJXMVFDXD9EEKW9GFQDRVUXFRZITZP9QCGAAMKTAXQSDIUJXKRUMCWZWEPKWJAFGMFVB99 99.

All transactions will be possible only with trustworthy escrow services, preferably those provided by yassin54 or by Seccour.

If you are interested in this offer, I request that you please send me your order by a reply in this thread and directly by e-mail to cryptoBanqueiro(at)hotmail.com.

The deadline to this offer is the start of iota being traded on exchanges. After that, all my trades will be done at dashnegocios.com.

Thank you. I remain at your disposal.

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Come-from-Beyond

Legendary

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Newbie

Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 11:37:10 AM

#1618

Quote from: Admiral_Bit on July 14, 2016, 11:27:53 AM

well thats teasing...

No. So, will you answer those legit questions or you will continue playing dumb? Right now your reputation is not very good, but you can make it better if the others see that you genuinely trying to fix this situation. If you don't care about your reputation then just say this and I will stop trying to help you.

Seccour (OP)

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Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 11:41:14 AM

#1619

Quote from: PondSea on July 14, 2016, 11:24:33 AM

I am preety sure if the op asks him to leave and he doesnt we can report to mods to get his account banned.

Nah i didn't get any answer from the mod. They don't care about it. Even if what Admiral do is just spamming the same post over and over again. I just ignore him right now and other people should do it to.

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Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation

July 14, 2016, 11:42:41 AM

#1620

Quote from: Admiral_Bit on July 14, 2016, 11:32:43 AM

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on July 14, 2016, 11:24:02 AM

Just paid my 1 BTC into the escrow, waiting for Admiral to send.

Regards

The deal is off! I was not included in the signed message. I was called XXXBuyerXXX

No deal!, No Bet!

Hahahaha, are you for real? Thats your excuse for chickening out of the bet?
Jesus fucking christ you are timewaster...

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