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"BTC" and ISO 4217

October 12, 2010, 03:48:19 PM

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"BTC" is not a good or likely ISO 4217 currency code. There are two kinds: country specific and everything else.

The country specific codes start with the two letter country code followed by another letter, often the first letter in the name of the currency. "USD" for US Dollar and "SEK" for Swedish Krona. "BT" is the country code for Bhutan.

Non country specific codes start with an "X" followed by two letters describing the currency. "XAU" for gold and "XDR" for Special Drawing Rights. The natural ISO 4217 code for Bitcoin would be "XBC". "XBC" is currently taken by the obsolete European Unit of Account 9 so maybe it can be reassigned. Or maybe the ISO 4217 Maintenance Agency can make an exception if "BTC" becomes established enough but it would be kind of ugly.

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

October 12, 2010, 04:10:03 PM

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Abbreviations get their meaning from usage, not from approval by a committee. Don't worry about it.

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

October 12, 2010, 05:06:33 PM

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Before the euro came, we paid here in Belgium with Belgium Francs, everybody wrote it down with fr or Bfr instead of BEF.
Did anyone complain, no
did everybody know what it meant, yes.

And the XBC is taken, so actually there is no much choice if you still want to have something not to weird like XBI.
So I would say, just use the BTC, if that agency doesn't want to make an exeption if Bitcoin becomes a widespread currency becouse it would look sloppy, they still can make something fancy from it that stands nice between the iso codes.

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

October 12, 2010, 05:58:30 PM

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Yeah, well, there will be problems anyway. If it catches on big then BTC will be a very large unit. The actual daily life unit will be something like µBTC.

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

October 12, 2010, 07:04:06 PM

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my two myoobitz-- i think the cart is well ahead of the horse in this discussion.

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

October 12, 2010, 08:20:27 PM

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I agree with the ones that say that use will determine it, but I like" XBC".

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

October 17, 2010, 07:48:35 PM

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Russian roubles - RUB, Ukrainian hryvnia - UAH, etc. So I see no problem with BTC.

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

November 10, 2010, 12:37:52 AM

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The euro is not from any specific country, and yet they didn't call it XEU but EUR. So I don't think the rule is that strong. Let's stick with BTC.

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

November 10, 2010, 09:47:21 AM

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Quote from: davux on November 10, 2010, 12:37:52 AM

The euro is not from any specific country, and yet they didn't call it XEU but EUR. So I don't think the rule is that strong.

"EU" is the official country code of the European Union.

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

November 10, 2010, 10:17:54 AM

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Standards come from usage not from arbitrary rules.

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

November 10, 2010, 03:29:50 PM

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Quote from: Anonymous on November 10, 2010, 10:17:54 AM

Standards come from usage not from arbitrary rules.

Only rarely. Most standards are arbitrary rules that are followed because it is useful to be interoperable with everyone else.

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

November 10, 2010, 03:53:00 PM

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Successful standards codify (and thereby standardize) existing practice, but the world is littered with prescriptive standards that failed because they tried to impose inventions of their own.

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

November 10, 2010, 06:19:57 PM

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

November 10, 2010, 10:00:06 PM

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Quote from: db on November 10, 2010, 03:29:50 PM

Quote from: Anonymous on November 10, 2010, 10:17:54 AM

Standards come from usage not from arbitrary rules.

Only rarely. Most standards are arbitrary rules that are followed because it is useful to be interoperable with everyone else.

I meant free market standards. Not those where a company pays lobbyists to impose something on the rest of their industry.

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

July 07, 2011, 02:13:42 PM

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Quote from: db on November 10, 2010, 09:47:21 AM

Quote from: davux on November 10, 2010, 12:37:52 AM

The euro is not from any specific country, and yet they didn't call it XEU but EUR. So I don't think the rule is that strong.

"EU" is the official country code of the European Union.

And yet euro isn't EUE

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

July 07, 2011, 02:21:09 PM

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We only need to buy bhuthan and claim BTC is from there.

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

July 07, 2011, 03:48:15 PM

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Quote from: wcoenen on July 07, 2011, 02:17:14 PM

Quote from: jackjack on July 07, 2011, 02:13:42 PM

Quote from: db on November 10, 2010, 09:47:21 AM

Quote from: davux on November 10, 2010, 12:37:52 AM

The euro is not from any specific country, and yet they didn't call it XEU but EUR. So I don't think the rule is that strong.

"EU" is the official country code of the European Union.

And yet euro isn't EUE

Nobody said the last letter had to be the first letter of the full currency name (which would probably vary with language etc). The Mexican Peso is MXN, the Russian Ruble is RUB, ...

Ok, I thought so
Anyway an exception is needed because none of 'us' will accept to change BTC

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

July 07, 2011, 04:04:44 PM

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Quote from: wcoenen on July 07, 2011, 02:17:14 PM

Quote from: jackjack on July 07, 2011, 02:13:42 PM

Quote from: db on November 10, 2010, 09:47:21 AM

Quote from: davux on November 10, 2010, 12:37:52 AM

The euro is not from any specific country, and yet they didn't call it XEU but EUR. So I don't think the rule is that strong.

"EU" is the official country code of the European Union.

And yet euro isn't EUE

Nobody said the last letter had to be the first letter of the full currency name (which would probably vary with language etc). The Mexican Peso is MXN, the Russian Ruble is RUB, ...

There was a MXP. MXN stands for Mexican New Peso (Nuevo peso mexicano).

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

July 07, 2011, 05:55:04 PM

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(Unlike what I said back in october,) I think we should go for BC and XBC.

Most of the time we use "BTC" in contexts where no strict ISO compliance is really expected, it's just an abbreviation. In those cases, let's just use BC instead, it's even easier to understand.

And then XBC can be used wherever strict ISO compliance is needed.

(Or rebrand Bitcoin to Bhutancoin.)

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Re: "BTC" and ISO 4217

July 07, 2011, 06:38:52 PM

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XBC is taken. XBI and XBT seem open.

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