I am not exactly sure where the negative connotation comes from.  It is one of, if not the, most advanced crypto projects around.  It has a decentralized exchange (Waves just raised over $10 million to make one amongst other things), it is essentially already scaled, is fast, cheap.

Good project, I have in.

I was trying to figure that out a few days ago and asked in their thread.  Pages 18 and 19 have two posts affirming that they are a centralized poker project that isn't hosted on a blockchain - it's centralized.  The relevance of that per the success of either project is not something that I really know.

I have been thinking about the DAO circus though.  It was essentially a bug in the smart contract that allowed this to happen (on a side note, I think it sucks that a DAO failure could end up bringing Ethereum down with it).

Vitalik tweeted a link to this reddit thread eight hours ago,  https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4omdlf/to_kickstart_the_building_safer_smart_contracts/.  It is essentially a look at failed smart contract projects and I thought that it might be relevant for the devs here, since they are going to be using smart contracts and one of the projects was an ETH casino.

At the very least, it could provide an opportunity to collaborate with others in the field and provide for stronger collaboration and code in the future...or I could just be naive.  Granted, this is highlighting ETH code and not Graphene/Bitshares but...

Doubt it.  Peerplays has nothing to do with the DAO other than the proposal.  It has already raised its first rounds of crowdfunding, and development wilk continue as planned.  The drop has everything to do with the BTC rally.  Either way, i don't care.  Holding for the long haul.

Yes that would be good.  Most people don't even know what Freedomledger is.

It doesn't matter what the price of BitShares is.  Peerplays is using Graphene and the ecosystem, which was developed by BitShares.  Peerplays will be a standalone app, if I interpret correctly, that interacts with it and potentially will interact with Ethereum once a side chain is created (though The DAO won't be funding it since it is dissolving).

The tech is the most usable for what Peerplays is aiming for.

You guys keep humming your song, but all I have to if Bitshares wasn't garbage, it's value wouldn't just be a constantly decline tell yourself whatever you want to hear to make yourselves feel better about your investment  

It's funny you guys even mention cryptofresh, some no name Ruby developer made a block explorer better then before the official team even made one that's worth using... what a joke.

It doesnt matter anyway, Peerplays is build on the Bitshares Blockchain it has nothing to do with bitshares on its own

@Rick M, you speak a lot of sense. Most people just can't seem to wrap their minds around a decentralized exchange yet, but it definitely is the future. Personally I love to use OpenLedger, it works easy as pie, a child could use it, not sure why people find it so hard.

Sure, the charts could be expanded more and have more indicators and other fancy features, but that's all just interface stuff, any dev can create their own Ledger UI and add whatever functionality they want, it's only a matter of time before more great UIs will be designed and released for Bitshares Decentralized Exchange.

Another thing to note: Peerplay coins aren't actually in existence yet, the tokens on BDE are just place holders for the real thing. Once mainnet launches and we get our real Peerplay coins they can then be traded on any exchange that wants to list it.