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    December 27, 2011, 06:29:08 PM
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    Brutal 24 hour+ round, but I broke my cherry and found us a block 8 minutes later!

    My first block found in any pool. I think getting up to 5+ GHash helped. I have enough cards and gear to get up to almost 12 GHash soon. I'm hoping to get them all running by january 4th because I'm having surgery that day.

    Great pool so far and I hope to keep contributing for a long time.

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    December 27, 2011, 06:53:03 PM
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    Quote from: jjshabadoo on December 27, 2011, 06:29:08 PM
    Brutal 24 hour+ round, but I broke my cherry and found us a block 8 minutes later!
    ...

    This is a technical question from a newbie, not a complaint or whine...

    In the My Shares column of Block Stats, in the row for jjshabadoo's block it shows 0, although I was mining continuously during that 8-minute period.  Why 0?  Meanwhile, My Earning  (what does Prop Diff denote?) and Donation in that row are positive.

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    December 27, 2011, 07:00:00 PM
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    I don't know too much either, but I believe this is due to the double geometric method. You don't earn as much right away, but as you continue to mine, you get up to your expected earnings.

    I'll let Inaba or someone else with more knowledge give you a true detailed explanation, but it has something to do with what I posted.

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    December 28, 2011, 02:18:43 PM
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    So to answer the questions:

    Proofer - what hashrate are you mining at?  It's possible you did not submit a share in that 8 minutes if your hashrate is lower. 

    For prop differential, it shows you how much you earned compared to a completely fair, unhopped proportional distribution.  It's kind of a misleading stat in so far as you can't view just one block and look at the prop differential, you have to take about 7 blocks before and 7 blocks after a given block to get a good idea of your true differential (which should approach 0%)... there is about a 5 block lag time between when you see changes to your differential and something significant happening that would change your differential...

    Your earning (and donation) in that row, even if your shares submitted is 0, is due to DGM paying you for work done on other blocks.  Because of the way block changes are handled in the background, some shares for a given block may be submitted to the share before or after the given block... it's entirely possible if you only submitted a few shares in 8 minutes that those shares were attributed to the block prior or the block after - in either case you're still credited for the block, though, instead of them being discarded, like most pools.

    At any rate, I spent most of Monday working on PSJ with little to show for it.  I remembered why I dislike OOP so much... 3x more coding for the same result as non-OOP.  Sure, non-OOP is less maintainable or modular, but come on.  Jeez.

    I'm going to turn my attention to other things for a bit and come back to PSJ this weekend.  If anyone is a crack Java programmer that wants to make some mods to PSJ, I'd be interested in hearing from you.  I'd really like to make the mods I need be pluggable, but after working on it, I'm having trouble envisioning how it might get done with the PSJ pluggable engine without modifying the source.
    If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.

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    December 28, 2011, 03:08:59 PM
    Last edit: December 28, 2011, 03:25:51 PM by jjiimm_64
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    Sorting is working...  YAH!  Thank you sir.

    edit:
    this one pops to the top on every metric.  Smiley   (power set at 1250W)
    jjiimm_64_miner11    3.24 GH/s    970    5699    598202    1 s    ฿ 2.07 ($8.42) day


    being able to sort 15 miners to see which ones are most profitable at any given time is very handy..  Thanks again.  I have doubled my donation for the month of Jan
    1jimbitm6hAKTjKX4qurCNQubbnk2YsFw

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    December 28, 2011, 03:43:44 PM
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    Subject:  bogus worker-failed email alert

    I logged in to the web site to look at my Block Stats pursuant to absorbing Inaba's recent reply to my inquiry on that subject, and then got this email:

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    from eclipse.communityhosting.net (eclipsemc.com. [69.30.224.137])        by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wv5si23522212igb.62.2011.12.28.07.22.03        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);        Wed, 28 Dec 2011 07:22:03 -0800 (PST)
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    (from josh@localhost) by eclipsemc.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id pBSFM2RQ031809; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:22:02 -0600
    ...

    You have asked to be notified when your miner, [...] has failed.
    Our helper monkeys have determined that it has, in fact, failed.

    The last activity we recieved on the miner was 2011-12-28 07:22:02
    (America/Los_Angeles) . You may want to check on it.

    But there was no discontinuity in the miner's generation of accepted shares:
    Code:
    [2011-12-28 07:21:48] Accepted 00000000.c9372a9c.e31b4ab2 GPU 4 thread 4 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:21:48] Accepted 00000000.a8a042f4.85540439 GPU 1 thread 7 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:21:56] Accepted 00000000.0b1eb6e6.197c2194 GPU 1 thread 7 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:21:57] Accepted 00000000.40ad4052.00e0b4f1 GPU 3 thread 3 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:21:57] Accepted 00000000.c383a550.cd88d5f8 GPU 2 thread 8 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:21:58] Accepted 00000000.304646bf.32bd160e GPU 0 thread 6 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:21:59] Accepted 00000000.982321f7.b91d4d55 GPU 5 thread 5 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:01] Accepted 00000000.2df1b93a.c7de19e0 GPU 5 thread 11 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:03] Accepted 00000000.27a0a503.539d1ac7 GPU 0 thread 6 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:05] Accepted 00000000.12baec39.dd733aba GPU 1 thread 7 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:05] Accepted 00000000.d46c4c4e.b18bb41d GPU 0 thread 0 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:07] Accepted 00000000.73bc80d3.e8803b38 GPU 3 thread 9 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:10] Accepted 00000000.6ab6eba1.4d54d075 GPU 5 thread 5 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:12] Accepted 00000000.58cf492b.8b200027 GPU 1 thread 7 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:13] Accepted 00000000.bf168b03.bb8323a1 GPU 1 thread 7 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:22] Rejected 00000000.45a15d96.6e147cbf GPU 5 thread 5 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:22] LONGPOLL detected new block on network, waiting on fresh work
    [2011-12-28 07:22:23] Accepted 00000000.7fed39e4.1c5411e6 GPU 1 thread 1 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:23] Accepted 00000000.28db40eb.4fe1611e GPU 4 thread 4 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:23] Accepted 00000000.ba601325.ccc72654 GPU 4 thread 10 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:24] Accepted 00000000.ba5991a3.c85052bb GPU 2 thread 2 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:26] Accepted 00000000.606c0857.05bba2ff GPU 4 thread 10 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:27] Accepted 00000000.369014c0.7147f0ef GPU 2 thread 8 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:28] Accepted 00000000.ba30b50f.9ae5307e GPU 5 thread 11 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:29] Accepted 00000000.5b2c683c.90633ea6 GPU 4 thread 4 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:30] Accepted 00000000.740fe681.617e60b6 GPU 3 thread 3 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:35] Accepted 00000000.f8d5b941.3cbee758 GPU 1 thread 7 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:36] Accepted 00000000.71bb2bd3.7526cdb7 GPU 4 thread 10 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:39] Accepted 00000000.8db2fea5.08d1ce50 GPU 2 thread 2 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:39] Accepted 00000000.babae97a.8035c4c7 GPU 2 thread 2 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:41] Accepted 00000000.5c69a779.15af7271 GPU 1 thread 7 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:44] Accepted 00000000.c931eb7a.7f78380e GPU 1 thread 7 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:44] Accepted 00000000.0f77f11f.4511b673 GPU 0 thread 6 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:45] Accepted 00000000.7172649d.6f74014b GPU 1 thread 1 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:50] Accepted 00000000.802caedc.fb80b273 GPU 3 thread 3 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:52] Accepted 00000000.9b5168bc.2370abc0 GPU 0 thread 6 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:57] Accepted 00000000.4c63550b.ead6a8a0 GPU 3 thread 3 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:58] Accepted 00000000.112ee5fe.0f513d7c GPU 2 thread 8 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:59] Accepted 00000000.2bbe04fd.6bad2729 GPU 4 thread 4 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:22:59] Accepted 00000000.ac0a96cf.32701168 GPU 2 thread 2 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:23:02] Accepted 00000000.64dee0e3.547d2334 GPU 0 thread 6 pool 0
    [2011-12-28 07:23:05] Accepted 00000000.cb96829b.5efe6346 GPU 0 thread 6 pool 0

    In sum, the reported last activity was within one second of the generation of the email.  Whether my logging in to the web site was cause or coincidence I don't know.  And yes, pool 0 is indeed...
    0: http://us.eclipsemc.com:9009

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    December 28, 2011, 04:05:43 PM
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    Quote from: Inaba on December 28, 2011, 02:18:43 PM
    Proofer - what hashrate are you mining at?  It's possible you did not submit a share in that 8 minutes if your hashrate is lower.

    During the interval in question, 2011-12-16 22:14:35 ... 22:22:33 inclusive PST my miner reported 205 shares accepted.

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    At any rate, I spent most of Monday working on PSJ with little to show for it.  I remembered why I dislike OOP so much... 3x more coding for the same result as non-OOP.  Sure, non-OOP is less maintainable or modular, but come on.  Jeez.

    When I was a youngster like you and was doing mostly system software, I had the same reaction.[/condescension]

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    December 28, 2011, 04:16:11 PM
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    Quote from: Inaba on December 21, 2011, 05:07:01 AM
    I opened another instance of the getwork server on port 9009.  If some of you want to switch over to that port, that would be great.  We aren't having any problems at the moment, but I would like to head off any potential problems before they become an issue. 

    So instead of connecting to port 8337, just use port 9009 and maybe set port 8337 as a backup.

    Can I have the same worker on both ports or must they be different?  Currently I have two different workers, with one on 8337 as failover backup as suggested.  Occasionally a very few shares are submitted to the backup.  To neaten my Workers list I'd prefer to remove the second worker.

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    December 28, 2011, 04:21:10 PM
    Last edit: December 28, 2011, 04:38:58 PM by Inaba
     #1269
    Did you have your time for notifications set to a different number than it's set to now?

    You can have the same worker on both ports.  So long as the requested work gets submitted back to the same port, there should be no problems.

    For your shares, it looks like they were queuing up in the prior block, I show 13607 submitted in that block, even though your accounting says 13394. Payouts are based on submitted and always have been.  There's a slight disconnect between accounting and submitted due to timing issues between when a block is solved and how long it takes to process, so shares get credited (usually) to the prior block for block stat accounting while the block is processing if the iteration hasn't reached your workers yet, even though the getwork server is crediting the submitted shares to the "current" block.

    I actually have a method 90% in place to speed up block processing so it's almost instant, I just haven't turned it on yet.  If/when we move to PSJ, it will also virtually eliminate this issue as well.  In either case, it's purely a display issue (as you can see from your payment being the same as your previous one), and I'll probably send something to comb the DB and recount all shares according to the submitted shares table instead of the user accounting table once the underlying issue is resolved.
    If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.

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    December 28, 2011, 04:23:29 PM
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    Quote from: Inaba on December 28, 2011, 04:21:10 PM
    Did you have your time for notifications set to a different number than it's set to now?

    No change -- 30 min.

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    December 28, 2011, 04:38:02 PM
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    I'm not sure why it would send you an erroneous text - I've never had that happen before.  Did you make any changes to your account at all?
    If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.

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    December 28, 2011, 04:38:41 PM
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    Quote from: Inaba on December 28, 2011, 04:38:02 PM
    I'm not sure why it would send you an erroneous text - I've never had that happen before.  Did you make any changes to your account at all?

    No changes.

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    December 29, 2011, 05:05:30 PM
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    Well, I haven't been able to find anything as to the cause of this.  Has it happened again?  If not, let me know if it does and I will see if I can narrow it down some more.
    If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.

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    December 29, 2011, 05:11:14 PM
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    Quote from: Inaba on December 29, 2011, 05:05:30 PM
    Well, I haven't been able to find anything as to the cause of this.  Has it happened again?

    No.

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    If not, let me know if it does ...

    Wilco.

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    December 29, 2011, 09:56:41 PM
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    Website down? Cannot log in, Error 500 internal server error.
    5830 mining for life

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    December 29, 2011, 10:19:20 PM
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    Same here
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    December 29, 2011, 10:24:17 PM
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    Hmm no it seems up here logging in remotely and I've not done any changes today.

    What page is giving that error?

    **EDIT**

    Nevermind... I found the problem.  It actually only affected people not already logged in which is why I didn't see it.  It was one of the security features I have been working on causing a problem... should be fixed now. 

    Wow... sorry guys, I always check to make sure things are still up after I work on something, but didn't think to check as a logged out user.
    If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.

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    December 31, 2011, 11:41:47 PM
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    Did we have a good night last night or what?Huh?  2.5 BTC for 2GH/s!

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    January 01, 2012, 12:45:41 PM
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    Hi Inaba!

    THX for the great pool. I switched from Ars since a few days and i think it was the right descision. No more failing pools etc. Moreover, I like all the features you have added to your pool! But I still have some questions: Is it possible to give us more statistics about the stale rate? Do you think, you can lower the stale rate?

    THX and Greetz

    NetworkerZ

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    January 01, 2012, 05:43:52 PM
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    What stale rate are you seeing?  Stale rate seems to be about 1% right now...  But yes, I can add some more info with regards to stale rate.  I've been kind of holding off until the switch to PSJ as all that sort of statistical gathering is going to change dramatically on the back end and I don't want to work on it twice.  But I will see what I can do in the interim.

    Yeah, the night before last was a good night for sure! Smiley
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