Good, good, now start on this (much shorter but also informative) thread ^_^

https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/231739.0

Link your chart?

You people with your BFL-induced PTSD who are now ASIC-conspiracy theorists as a result. Stop judging others by your BFL experience. BFL's failure does not make it more or less likely that another company will or won't ship.

You are officially an Idiot. (newbie)
Try reading a bit before looking so dumb.
They've got 10+ YEARS in ASIC Development, and yes, 28nm as well.
Whereas, BFL had NONE.


ALSO... (to others)Saying they missed a deadline is TOTAL BS. (the mock-up statement was an email between THEM, and in no way a deadline on machines, or indication they are behind.)
Ever stop to think that maybe they are AHEAD of schedule? More likely IMHO, Why send a mock-up, when a few first-run total machines may be days/weeks away?
I think sending out mock-ups would be a huge waste of time if they are "On track" with Sept deliveries. It would take the boys at CGMiner...what?... a whole day?


Bitcoin-o-Rama.... "If your Bum Squeaks...."  ROFL

agreed...  with that in mind, I wouldn't worry till last week of AUG about that; they would still have an entire month.
I mean, really.... set a few flags & parameters till it runs good. Might take 1/2 hour, might take a day, but seriously, in any case.... Will happen in short-order, so the Mock-up argument is not an issue to me at all, until the machines ship out to customers, whatever day in Sept that may be. We already know their code works on CGMiner, per open-day. The rest will be quick & easy IMHO


I'll be bold, and "Call it" right now....
KNC_FakeNews... August 19th, 2013(or thereaboutz) .. "Cklovas & I(Kano) just received a Jupiter to Tune CGMiner to... A real Jupiter, not a mock-up."  

Marcus..."Margins, upon margins, upon margins"... and   "Under-promise, Over-deliver"(openday)
https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/232852.0 (openday part 2)
https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/214285.0 (openday part 1)

Relevant to recent discussion, the interview... https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/232852.msg2468045#msg2468045
and especially
https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/232852.200

Excerpt from last link.. (Orama is "Me", but not ME!)

Me: So that there was going to be my next so where are the weak links in the chain basically?

Marcus None (laughs)

Me: So...your, your that confident?

Marcus: Yes

(General laughing)

Marcus: Yes, yes, absolutely...

Sam: We have tested absolutely everything. We are over-cooling it, we are over powering it; 1000w

Marcus interupting: Oh yeah, we have margins on each.

Sam: We have margins on margins.

Marcus: we have margins and margins on margins just to make sure that we are reducing the risk throughout the whole cell. I mean we have redesigned the RTL code for the ASIC in a way so that we make it easier for the backend guys to do the backend to reduce risk.

Andreas: The devices have to run 24/7 as well. So we have to be confident that when people put the device on the shelf, can run it not for only one day, but hopefully a year down the line.

Sam: In Dubai, in an apartment, without the air-con on!

Yeah Kano...  silly.
I especially find amusing..."Concrete Deadline"  Hahahahaha ROFL, what a WHINER.
How about this for the whiners...
They could have sent it out last week, or yesterday, and it would still be in transit, but within the time as written.
"Concrete Deadline"... Where the hell did that idea come from anyway? "Soft milestone" at best; it was an email, not an announcement.
 

Did someone say Pot??     

Sam has the Sam has the Biggest, best smile!


Looks like a real Motley Jet-lag crew.

Get an itemized quote, do you think you pay the full $2MM up front?  If you do, let me know I will gladly negotiate for you next time for 10%.    that is the payment you will be making PRIOR to your mask.   There are other payments, but you seem to have an inkling of what you are talking about so you know that, don't you?
That I do not believe KnC is producing a fully designed asic should be obvious by now.