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    January 10, 2017, 10:35:30 PM
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    Following a couple of comments on "U2" 's nearby thread on taint, I have not been able to get blockchain.info's taint analysis to work lately (blockchain.info busy ("maximum concurrent requests")).

    Does anyone else offer a taint analysis tool?  Such analysis of taint is of much interest to me, and probably others.

    I also remember that blockchain.info also used to offer their own mixing service, based on COINJoin I believe, I believe I read that they discovered a security hole and no longer offer it.  Pity!

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    July 23, 2017, 05:26:00 PM
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    Yes, I am looking as well for an alternative taint analysis tool other than blockchain.info... It has been months that blockchain.info has switched off this free service. As there is absolutely no information released why, my guess is that law enforcement agencies pressed blockchani.info into switching it off... so people can't do a taint analysis anymore.... I want to check the past of bitcoins I was sold.There is nothing wrong with that... just to be on the safe side...

    Any guesses Huh

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    July 23, 2017, 05:39:56 PM
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    Quote from: jona1492 on July 23, 2017, 05:26:00 PM
    Yes, I am looking as well for an alternative taint analysis tool other than blockchain.info... It has been months that blockchain.info has switched off this free service. As there is absolutely no information released why, my guess is that law enforcement agencies pressed blockchani.info into switching it off... so people can't do a taint analysis anymore.... I want to check the past of bitcoins I was sold.There is nothing wrong with that... just to be on the safe side...

    Any guesses Huh





    I am still interested myself.  I was very happy with that service, it showed that both blockchain.info's mixing service AND bitmixer.io's both seemed to obscure sending & receiving wallets rather well.

    I heard a year or two ago that blockchain's mixing service was not secure (I believe that someone found a way to connect sending & receiving wallets or something), but that is not clear to me.

    YES!  Anyone who knows of a good taint analysis tool please let us know.

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    July 23, 2017, 08:12:29 PM
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    You might find https://www.walletexplorer.com/ helpful. I do not know of any other free taint analysis tools. The companies that do chainanalysis KYC/AML for exchanges do not give their software away for free.
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    July 23, 2017, 09:17:08 PM
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    Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on July 23, 2017, 08:12:29 PM
    You might find https://www.walletexplorer.com/ helpful. I do not know of any other free taint analysis tools. The companies that do chainanalysis KYC/AML for exchanges do not give their software away for free.

    It looks nice, but I think that it's telling me that my address is a part of "MtGoxAndOthers". I've never used Mt. Gox!

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    July 23, 2017, 09:23:12 PM
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    Quote from: OROBTC on January 10, 2017, 10:35:30 PM
    Does anyone else offer a taint analysis tool?  Such analysis of taint is of much interest to me, and probably others.
    How is this one - http://learnmeabitcoin.com/tools/path/ ?

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    July 24, 2017, 10:48:44 PM
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    I searched some time ago for another one for my curiosity since Blockchain.info sends their to the bin but I only found this on Github
    https://github.com/mikispag/bitiodine/blob/master/deploy/blockparser/cb/taint.cpp and it works quite differently. I have been surprised to not find a few online tools. Even if I understand that the companies are not going to give it for free

    @OROBTC
    There is this PDF a good piece to read: Survey of Bitcoin Mixing Services: Tracing Anonymous Bitcoins
     http://www.novetta.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/NovettaBiometrics_BitcoinCryptocurrency_WP-W_9182015.pdf

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    • Taint Analysis is not capable of drawing
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    • The Bitcoin mixing services evaluated
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    introduce additional behavioral data
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    • Individual mixing services can be
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    patterns in their mixing techniques.
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    August 12, 2017, 04:02:50 AM
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    Asking for somebody else who asked me - any tools currently available?

    Myself, I used to do it the long way - by hand. I know that 3-LAs do have tools at their disposal that can do some very amazing things in performing said tasks, some aspects you'll be shocked to learn about if not versed.

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    October 27, 2017, 06:37:46 AM
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    Quote from: Gleb Gamow on August 12, 2017, 04:02:50 AM
    any tools currently available?

    Yeah, it is a shame that good chain analysis tools are not available for free anymore. What's the latest ?

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    November 01, 2017, 05:57:48 PM
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    I would like to make some chain analysis tools available for free online in the coming months. In my opinion people should have the right to access these tools without either the technical know-how or a bill to some firm.

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    November 01, 2017, 06:04:56 PM
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    Quote from: Taras on November 01, 2017, 05:57:48 PM
    I would like to make some chain analysis tools available for free online in the coming months. In my opinion people should have the right to access these tools without either the technical know-how or a bill to some firm.

    You should have no lack of beta testers good luck with the project.
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    November 01, 2017, 06:56:29 PM
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    Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on November 01, 2017, 06:04:56 PM
    Quote from: Taras on November 01, 2017, 05:57:48 PM
    I would like to make some chain analysis tools available for free online in the coming months. In my opinion people should have the right to access these tools without either the technical know-how or a bill to some firm.

    You should have no lack of beta testers good luck with the project.


    Taras and BitcoinNewsMagazine

    Yeah, you guys got that right. 

    Taras, please let us know of any progress or want beta-testing.

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    November 01, 2017, 08:10:54 PM
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    Quote from: Taras on November 01, 2017, 05:57:48 PM
    I would like to make some chain analysis tools available for free online in the coming months. In my opinion people should have the right to access these tools without either the technical know-how or a bill to some firm.
    Please do, that would be great. I would be happy to help if it's free software, or at least beta test.
    Interesting that all these services have gone down over time.

    I heard a lot of actresses are paid good money for taint analysis, but I think that's something else.

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    November 01, 2017, 08:33:41 PM
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    Quote from: Polygora on November 01, 2017, 08:10:54 PM
    Quote from: Taras on November 01, 2017, 05:57:48 PM
    I would like to make some chain analysis tools available for free online in the coming months. In my opinion people should have the right to access these tools without either the technical know-how or a bill to some firm.
    Please do, that would be great. I would be happy to help if it's free software, or at least beta test.
    Interesting that all these services have gone down over time.

    I heard a lot of actresses are paid good money for taint analysis, but I think that's something else.

    Taint analysis really wasn't the best thing to call it... I'm tempted to make the same thing but name it something else, but then nobody would know what I'm talking about! Everyone already knows what taint analysis is. Oh well.

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    November 02, 2017, 08:50:14 AM
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    Quote from: Taras on November 01, 2017, 05:57:48 PM
    I would like to make some chain analysis tools available for free online in the coming months.
    In my opinion people should have the right to access these tools without either the technical
    know-how or a bill to some firm.

    I would like to make some tools too. Not for free.
    Let us begin competition between two approaches Smiley
    If you are interested in it - drop me a message.

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    November 02, 2017, 06:29:07 PM
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    Quote from: amaclin1 on November 02, 2017, 08:50:14 AM
    Quote from: Taras on November 01, 2017, 05:57:48 PM
    I would like to make some chain analysis tools available for free online in the coming months.
    In my opinion people should have the right to access these tools without either the technical
    know-how or a bill to some firm.

    I would like to make some tools too. Not for free.
    Let us begin competition between two approaches Smiley
    If you are interested in it - drop me a message.


    I think anybody reading this thread is interested.  And I am all for competition.  In principal, I would not be against a low fee to check for taint.

    You might consider writing up your Tool, allowing either beta-testers or a freebie to see how well it works.

    A free tool will be used more.  And get lots of acclaim in the BTC/programming community.

    Or perhaps you could allow 10 uses for some low fee...

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    November 02, 2017, 07:05:06 PM
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    Quote from: amaclin1 on November 02, 2017, 08:50:14 AM
    Quote from: Taras on November 01, 2017, 05:57:48 PM
    I would like to make some chain analysis tools available for free online in the coming months.
    In my opinion people should have the right to access these tools without either the technical
    know-how or a bill to some firm.

    I would like to make some tools too. Not for free.
    Let us begin competition between two approaches Smiley
    If you are interested in it - drop me a message.

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    Not for free.
    Good luck gaining any traction.
    Make sure to release it as free and open source software, or you'll struggle even moreso.
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