While I can appreciate what you're trying to do, failing to make a distinction between a hardware vendor and a vaporware vendor is dangerous. By listing both BFL and Avalon as green you're steering those reading this thread to BFL as Avalon does batch shipping and is unavailable. The bottomless pit of orders BFL takes in makes it unclear how long one could potentially wait to receive a product ordered today.
Avalon and BFL have both shipped products that are confirmed in the hands of end users, making them a
safer bet than most. Again, safer. Not irrefutable proof they wont screw you. This is opposed to some random Easybake website registered by random people with no proof at all what they claim is true or ever will be. BFL has some issues with their new line, but they have shipped in the past, have a real office people on these forums have been to, etc.
As noted this page is informational only,
if you choose to use it to influence your buying decisions I am not liable for the end result. This is to gather up all speculation and fact in one spot, make your own judgement.
This is largely opinion based by me, I agree. As noted any of these companies can contact me directly to clear themselves.
It isnt perfect but better than letting speculation run wild and be completely confusing to everyone, and mitigate "is it a scam?" posts.
The WHOIS information on DragonASIC is domains by proxy... GoDaddys privacy service, a lot of companies use that for a variety of reasons including political websites.
Because that whois information matches to other known scam sites, in reality, means very little.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domains_by_ProxyThey could equally be a legit company wanting to shield their business location or a scam company, the WHOIS information in this specific instance is basically worthless.
In effect, you have labeled a company as a 'scam' because you personally feel their WHOIS info is unreputable, despite there being millions of websites with the exact same WHOIS information.
It is not the registrar itself that raises plenty of suspicion, it is the real address it is attached to. A web search of it digs up a few examples of scam sites being generated by whatever it is, based on that I would not give them your money over BFL or Avalon at present.
You missed my point totally.
The 'real address' listed in the WHOIS database
IS NOT that companies physical address, it belongs to GoDaddy, the company they registered their domain name with.
If you search Google for that address you will find millions of listings using it, because it the address of the Domains By Proxy service.
http://reversewhois.domaintools.com/domains-by-proxy,-llc/GoDaddy owns that company, they are allowing other people to use (for payment) their address for the WHOIS information.
The fact the WHOIS information shows you the same address as millions of other sites, some scams and some legit, can not be used for you to say 'oh they are a scam' that just stinks to high heaven as a witch-hunt.
If you are legitimately concerned about showing which companies are and which companies are not scams, then you need to come up with a solid way of determining the distinctions, because right now, companies listed in this thread are being told they are 'guilty' without any means of proving otherwise (have you contacted the companies listed directly to tell them about your accusations and given them the opportunity to respond in this thread? I am guessing you haven't, just as you didn't us, we were informed by another community member here).
It would appear right now, you are proclaiming yourself to be judge, jury and executioner to the claims that some of the companies listed above may be scams, without any actual 'solid' evidence to either prove or, disprove your accusations (or accusations by others) you feel they are a scam and therefore, they are, period, end of story.
As a member of the BitcoinTalk community, that only registered some 9 days prior to me, how do
WE know that you are legitimately interested in actually proving the companies you have listed are scams, you could potentially be someone working for Avalon or BFL hired to make their competitors or any of the other companies listed look good/bad (as an example of why you need a defined course of proving if a company is legit or not & incidentally the only 2 companies in green, so that could be a possibility).
Let the BitcoinTalk community decide if a company listed above are scammers or not, this is a community after-all and should operate as such without a single person (hiding behind a made-up name on a message board) throwing around baseless accusations besmirching some potentially legitimate companies reputations, ours included, that just leads to further speculation and false assumptions.
