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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:13:02 PM

#1781

I really hate to bring this up, but I don't really have a choice.

When it was originally stated that bitcoins would be used, it was not specified that payment would be taken through BitPay. While I don't have anything against them as a service, their rates are not reflective of the current exchange rate.

As of the last time I checked, BitPay asks payment in BTC at a rate of 66.783 Euro/1BTC, versus the current price of 73 Euro/1BTC. 73/66.783 = 1.093. I feel that it is unfair to ask bitcoin customers to pay a 9.3% premium for paying in bitcoin, especially when it was not stated beforehand. Had I known this to be the case, I would have used PayPal.

2090Euro 66.783 (bitpay) = 31.295389545
2090Euro 73 (mtgox) = 28.630136986
Difference is 2.665252559 BTC × 73 = 194.563436807 Euro

I'm not trying to be difficult, but this would put me in a difficult position. Maybe others have a helpful insight to provide. I know that this was not intentionally done, and that BitPay offers burnin a convenient conversion to fiat. I hope that there is someway to resolve this where everyone is happy. Am I completely off-base here?

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:14:00 PM

#1782

How do I delete my (unpaid) order?
How many confirmations does Bitpay transaction need for my order to become 'processing'?

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:17:59 PM

#1783

Quote from: krasnolud on July 23, 2013, 09:12:47 PM

Quote from: FlappySocks on July 23, 2013, 09:08:27 PM

I am putting in my VAT number, and it doesn't take the VAT off Angry

For me it has substracted the VAT - you need to look a bit lower on the order total.

Nope. Not removing the VAT. Tried it with and without "GB" as the country prefix.
I continued to Paypal, and it still has not removed the VAT Angry

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:19:51 PM

#1784

Quote from: FlappySocks on July 23, 2013, 09:17:59 PM

Quote from: krasnolud on July 23, 2013, 09:12:47 PM

Quote from: FlappySocks on July 23, 2013, 09:08:27 PM

I am putting in my VAT number, and it doesn't take the VAT off Angry

For me it has substracted the VAT - you need to look a bit lower on the order total.

Nope. Not removing the VAT. Tried it with and without "GB" as the country prefix.
I continued to Paypal, and it still has not removed the VAT Angry

I remember that it didn't refresh when I did copy & paste, but after I entered the number manually it did refresh.
Are you entering GB and digits only, without any additional characters (spaces etc.)?

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:21:29 PM

#1785

FAQ states:

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Im from a country outside the EU, do I have to pay VAT?
No, only customers inside the EU have to pay VAT.

Are you granting VAT exemptions?
Yes for non EU Customers, and if youre running a business within the EU and have a valid VAT identification number then you dont have to pay VAT. Please enter your VAT identification number at the checkout page.

Same here. It doesn't work when I am putting my EU VAT ID, still asking to pay VAT.

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:22:49 PM

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Quote from: lenny_ on July 23, 2013, 09:21:29 PM

FAQ states:

Code:

Same here. It doesn't work when I am putting my EU VAT ID, still asking to pay VAT.

The site actually checks the VAT, maybe the verification server thinks its being ddos'd and blocked my site.

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:23:56 PM

#1787

The page refreshes when I key in the number, but the VAT remains.

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:25:19 PM

#1788

EDIT:
I pasted my VAT ID into field. When I choose country Poland to ship to, it excludes VAT from final price. When I choose United Kingdom, VAT is included! UK is not in EU? Wink

(I have business in Poland, but need to ship to UK...)

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:26:54 PM

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Quote from: lenny_ on July 23, 2013, 09:25:19 PM

EDIT:
I pasted my VAT ID into field. When I choose country Poland to ship to, it excludes VAT from final price. When I choose United Kingdom, VAT is included! UK is not in Europe? Wink

It is not! It's an island! Wink

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:31:59 PM

#1790

Quote from: krasnolud on July 23, 2013, 09:26:54 PM

Quote from: lenny_ on July 23, 2013, 09:25:19 PM

EDIT:
I pasted my VAT ID into field. When I choose country Poland to ship to, it excludes VAT from final price. When I choose United Kingdom, VAT is included! UK is not in Europe? Wink

It is not! It's an island! Wink

Sigh, another bug i suspect...

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:34:07 PM

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Quote from: burnin on July 23, 2013, 09:31:59 PM

Quote from: krasnolud on July 23, 2013, 09:26:54 PM

Quote from: lenny_ on July 23, 2013, 09:25:19 PM

EDIT:
I pasted my VAT ID into field. When I choose country Poland to ship to, it excludes VAT from final price. When I choose United Kingdom, VAT is included! UK is not in Europe? Wink

It is not! It's an island! Wink

Sigh, another bug i suspect...

Same for me, Austria reporting in!

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:36:17 PM

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Quote from: HeRetiK on July 23, 2013, 09:34:07 PM

Quote from: burnin on July 23, 2013, 09:31:59 PM

Quote from: krasnolud on July 23, 2013, 09:26:54 PM

Quote from: lenny_ on July 23, 2013, 09:25:19 PM

EDIT:
I pasted my VAT ID into field. When I choose country Poland to ship to, it excludes VAT from final price. When I choose United Kingdom, VAT is included! UK is not in Europe? Wink

It is not! It's an island! Wink

Sigh, another bug i suspect...

Same for me, Austria reporting in!

Austria should be working, did you follow this format? ATU12345678

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:36:29 PM

#1793

Quote from: burnin on July 23, 2013, 09:31:59 PM

Quote from: krasnolud on July 23, 2013, 09:26:54 PM

Quote from: lenny_ on July 23, 2013, 09:25:19 PM

EDIT:
I pasted my VAT ID into field. When I choose country Poland to ship to, it excludes VAT from final price. When I choose United Kingdom, VAT is included! UK is not in Europe? Wink

It is not! It's an island! Wink

Sigh, another bug i suspect...

I didn't realized it on beginning and already paid for my order inc. VAT. I contacted you via Contact webpage. Hopefully problem can be resolved.

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:38:18 PM

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Quote from: burnin on July 23, 2013, 09:31:59 PM

Quote from: krasnolud on July 23, 2013, 09:26:54 PM

Quote from: lenny_ on July 23, 2013, 09:25:19 PM

EDIT:
I pasted my VAT ID into field. When I choose country Poland to ship to, it excludes VAT from final price. When I choose United Kingdom, VAT is included! UK is not in Europe? Wink

It is not! It's an island! Wink

Sigh, another bug i suspect...

ok, burnin, I paid in full for my first order of 23 boards, VAT included. My order is still processing. I am not from EU, but I want my order to be shipped to my friend's address in Germany. Once the boards are finished, I will pick them up.

how will I get the refund? will you send me the necessary papers for that, or what? I am planning to make more orders, can you give me some burnin credits or something? Cheesy

we are talking about 500 euros.

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:39:09 PM

#1795

Quote from: chrxn on July 23, 2013, 09:13:02 PM

MTGox is always ahead of all others in price. Most other exchanges dont see it this way: http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/currency/USD.html

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:39:55 PM

#1796

Same here for Greece.

Tried both formats EL123456789 and 123456789 (actual number differs).
Still charging VAT.

My VAT is registered with VIES.

Now what?

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:43:25 PM

#1797

All of those having their VAT number not accepted, the website is using this API to check your VAT:
http://isvat.appspot.com/

Especially take a look at the section "ISO 3166 EU Country Codes".

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:47:13 PM

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Quote from: maxmint on July 23, 2013, 09:43:25 PM

All of those having their VAT number not accepted, the website is using this API to check your VAT:
http://isvat.appspot.com/

Shows TRUE for mine.

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:47:37 PM

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Quote from: chrxn on July 23, 2013, 09:13:02 PM

...
As of the last time I checked, BitPay asks payment in BTC at a rate of 66.783 Euro/1BTC, versus the current price of 73 Euro/1BTC. 73/66.783 = 1.093. I feel that it is unfair to ask bitcoin customers to pay a 9.3% premium for paying in bitcoin, especially when it was not stated beforehand. Had I known this to be the case, I would have used PayPal.
...

Rebuy the BTCs on Bitstamp for 66.74 atm. Sell them on Mt. Gox for 72.10 wait some months for your withdrawal. Undecided

Just want to say the Mt.Gox is not real atm, BitPay's rate seems to be legit.

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

July 23, 2013, 09:48:04 PM

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Quote from: maxmint on July 23, 2013, 09:36:17 PM

Quote from: HeRetiK on July 23, 2013, 09:34:07 PM

Same for me, Austria reporting in!

Austria should be working, did you follow this format? ATU12345678

Yes, also tried it with a different browser to no avail. (Chrome & Firefox)

Checked the API mentioned above ^

It recognized my UID as true (in the format: isvat.appspot.com/AT/U12345678 )

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