Why do coffee purchases need to be censorship-proof again?

translation:  There is no mythical coffee crypto that's truly decentralized like Bitcoin.

did I get that right?

More like: Block chain based crypto, due to the resources required to maintain it, isn't well suited for everyone to use for everything, all the time, aka buying a coffee.

Or you could convert that bitcoin of yours into your fiat currency then you could buy many coffees you like.
That saves the blockchain from the stress from processing a small amount of transaction that has a possibility to get unconfirmed or takes forever to get confirmed.

I don't know but  I think Bitcoin does not have any problem when it comes to those payments. Also as far as I know Bitcoin is the only cryptocurrency that is accepted in some local businesses other than that there is none. Bitcoin as of today is the Father of Cryptocurrency and it is still growing.

you have cash for that. if you fear failure and if you want to use a currency for your day to day needs then use (continue to use) cash/fiat for that matter.

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i don't really get why people are always going for extreme examples! who said we want to buy coffee everyday with bitcoin? that is stupid
but at the same time it is stupid to prevent scaling and say bitcoin is only for high value transactions and fees should go up because resources are limited.

Why would a typical consumer need to be censorship-proof again?

its not about the coffee

its about empowering the poeple

It might very well be, but because the ecological niche will be taken already by bitcoin.  Unless bitcoin leaves that niche.  But bitcoin, being first mover, and being highest market cap and being most integrated already with 'the big boys', may very well keep that place.  Or not.

It is a bit: "why is gold put in vaults and used for ages as reserve currency, and why not, say, iridium ?".  Because gold took that place first.

That said, there's nothing wrong with bitcoin leaving the room for something else if that something else works better.  The thing that bitcoin has going for it, is a brand name.  But deep down, it is just a game with big numbers.  Replacing a game with big numbers by another game with big numbers that turns out to be more practical, I don't see what's the problem.  Replacing a Ford-T with a Toyota, what's the problem, if it drives you better to where you want to go ?


Because it wasn't correctly designed for that, and immutability makes that it cannot change fundamentally.

Amen.

LN is banking all over.  But the niche is taken by fiat banks.  LN just brings in extra hassle.  Crypto, needing to be censorship resistant, trustless, decentralized etc.... has a huge burden in comparison with a centralized fiat bank ; that burden needs to be offset by an advantage in order to be competitive.  When there were 20 transactions a day, it seemed naively that this burden didn't really exist.   Click, and 10 minutes later, $10, or $100 000, was securely on the other side of the world.  The growth was financing the inflation and the PoW, everything was still small-scale, so it seemed simple, "if only everybody used it".  
No, the needs for censorship resistance, trustlessness, security, decentralization etc... are big resource hogs, and in order for it to be competitive with fiat banking, it has to bring in something that you cannot do or cannot do as well with fiat banking.

So crypto will always be a niche applications for those things you cannot do with fiat: everything which is illegal, lawless, unregulated, or where a good legal system doesn't exist, in those cases where the legal system is too corrupt, or when international situations make the connection between several legal systems too difficult.

And coffee buying is none of them.

Bitcoin is costing about $400 million a year in PoW only.  Add to that all the network and computing infrastructure, and you see that bitcoin, as a payment system allowing for 3 transactions a second, is not cheap.  It costs about $4 a transaction.  This is now compensated still by inflation which is not seen because of growth (greater fool growth), but the real cost is there.  You need to have a niche where a transaction is worth $4 as a competitive edge in order to do so.

I just don't understand why they always find ways to be little Bitcoin. It's becoming too many, if you feel the coffee coin can help you then go ahead and use it why would you come and talk another coin down?