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figuriela (OP)

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April 10, 2017, 12:21:10 AM

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Hello,

I do have reasonable suspicion that I have been scammed for 10BTC on this site. I opened account on 8.3.2017 and everything worked fine until the withdrawal on 1.4.2017. Since this day I am not able to access my account and I have there around 10BTC. I am contacting Mr. Kordolanyi in Budapest who is holder of their license in Montenegro and also government of Montenegro in next days if they will not return my balance.

On the first ticket I sent to Cloudbet they responded quite a fast when I consider what I read in here about their support and their response was. There is NO PROBLEM WITH MY ACCOUNT from their side and they asked to send other technical details. After I provided all technical details they sent me email that I have more than one account. So there was no problem with my account and after I told them what browser I am using I have multiple accounts? After I responded that I have only account they responded we are investigating. Actually, If they have the proof that I have multiple accounts what are they investigating now? And if they don't have they proof why they sent me response about multi accounting in the first place? They just dont want to pay out my balance. That is why.

Here I am posting all communication between me and cloudbet

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Here is interesting one I found on Twitter today. Looks like other ppl are having same problem. If you are having the same issue and can't access your money let me know, with all documentation and possible proofs you have. Montenegro government is quite a small and Its not so hard to get ministry of finance on the line so if you are going through same problem of fraud drop me message here (PM or contact me on email figuriela@email.cz). I am sure the other websites which are working under Mr. Kordolanyi license will not be so happy if their business will go to illegal position because of challenged license.

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

April 10, 2017, 12:44:48 AM
Last edit: July 16, 2017, 06:28:42 PM by game-protect

#2

The shills say everything is o.k., so there is no reason to be worried.

If they really have a license, you can sue them, but cloudbet support was not able to show it, so I think they have none!

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

April 10, 2017, 12:53:38 AM

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Quote from: game-protect on April 10, 2017, 12:44:48 AM

The shills say everything is o.k., so there is no reason to be worried.

If they really have a license, you can sue them, but cloudbet support was not able to show it, so I think they have none...

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

April 10, 2017, 01:08:10 AM

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Here they are stating that cloudbet.com is their licensed partner

https://valid.egm.online

If they don't have a gambling license they have bigger problem than mine 10BTC

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

April 10, 2017, 01:13:03 AM
Last edit: April 16, 2018, 10:57:01 PM by game-protect

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Quote from: figuriela on April 10, 2017, 01:08:10 AM

Here they are stating that cloudbet.com is their licensed partner

https://valid.egm.online

If they don't have a gambling license they have bigger problem than mine 10BTC

No, they do not state that cloudbet.com is their licensed partner, please read:

Quote from: E-Gambling Montenegro

This instruction page describes the way E-Gambling Montenegro is used and incorporated in compliance with the applicable cooperation and design guidelines.

Please note that they speak about applicable cooperation and design guidelines, not one word about operator or licensor!

As well on the E-Gambling Montenegro seal it is stated "In cooperation with" and not "licensed by". Therefore, cloudbet's claim they would be operated by EGM is not applicable!

Why does E-Gambling Montenegro not state their license or authorization on their website? Some of EGM's cooperators claim that EGM would have the concession serial no. AA 001588, numeric no. 133-01/15 4A and 1ER

Is Mr. Kordolanyi in Budapest owner/operator of E-Gambling Montenegro?

Did you check if E-Gambling Montenegro is registered in Podgorica?

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

April 10, 2017, 05:30:25 AM

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While I absolutely don't trust cloudbet anymore since the last few days, I would still like to hear their side. From all I have been reading on their thread they cleared any holds and no one had any issues.

If they don't reply, have a trusted member of this community look into it as well.

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

April 10, 2017, 03:18:43 PM

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i think cloudbet is scam.i lost much money because of its. it doesn't pay fast.

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

April 12, 2017, 08:05:26 PM

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Quote from: game-protect on April 10, 2017, 01:13:03 AM

Quote from: figuriela on April 10, 2017, 01:08:10 AM

Here they are stating that cloudbet.com is their licensed partner

https://valid.egm.online

If they don't have a gambling license they have bigger problem than mine 10BTC

No, they do not state that cloudbet.com is their licensed partner, please read:

Quote from: E-Gambling Montenegro

This instruction page describes the way E-Gambling Montenegro is used and incorporated in compliance with the applicable cooperation and design guidelines.

-> Please note that they speak about applicable cooperation and design guidelines, not one word about operator or licensor!

As well on the E-Gambling Montenegro seal it is stated "In cooperation with" and not "licensed by". Therefore, cloudbet's claim they would be operated by EGM is not applicable!

Why do E-Gambling Montenegro not state their license or authorization on their website? Some of EGM's cooperators claim that EGM would have the concession serial no. AA 001588, numeric no. 133-01/15 4A and 1ER

Is Mr. Kordolanyi in Budapest owner/operator of E-Gambling Montenegro?

Did you check if E-Gambling Montenegro is registered in Podgorica?

You do not have to state your license on your website.
Mr. Kodolanyi is CEO of E-Gambling Montenegro. He is living in Montenegro but he has some companies in Hungary also and Hungary is pretty close to me and I have there some contacts which will contact him pretty soon.

Today I received emails from another two ppl. Totally same happened to them. No problem from their side and rest you know... They combined to have more than 20BTC on account so summary is 30BTC so far. I will post screenshots here as they will send me. If you know more scammed ppl or you were scammed by yourself contact me here or figuriela@email.cz for more informations, screenshots and every proof you have will help.
Until today no response here in thread from cloudbet which confirms that they did not find nothing even if they wanted so much. They did not respond on my last email for more than a week. Trust me, they will pay my balance or this will be last few weeks of cloudbet site is running and if lawyers will figure out, they have no license and companies are not existing at all, Mr. Kodolanyi still exists :-) ...

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

April 12, 2017, 09:04:12 PM
Last edit: July 16, 2017, 02:23:34 PM by game-protect

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Quote from: figuriela on April 12, 2017, 08:05:26 PM

You do not have to state your license on your website.

Please quote the applicable Montenegrin licensing laws which state that a master-licensor do not have to state their authorization by the government?

Quote from: figuriela on April 12, 2017, 08:05:26 PM

Mr. Kodolanyi is CEO of E-Gambling Montenegro. He is living in Montenegro but he has some companies in Hungary also and Hungary is pretty close to me and I have there some contacts which will contact him pretty soon.

Good that you know who is CEO of E-Gambling Montenegro. The only problem I have is that E-Gambling Montenegro speaks only about a cooperation. Not sure if a cooperation will make them liable based on Montenegrin laws.

Quote from: figuriela on April 12, 2017, 08:05:26 PM

Today I received emails from another two ppl. Totally same happened to them. No problem from their side and rest you know... They combined to have more than 20BTC on account so summary is 30BTC so far. I will post screenshots here as they will send me. If you know more scammed ppl or you were scammed by yourself contact me here or figuriela@email.cz for more informations, screenshots and every proof you have will help.
Until today no response here in thread from cloudbet which confirms that they did not find nothing even if they wanted so much. They did not respond on my last email for more than a week. Trust me, they will pay my balance or this will be last few weeks of cloudbet site is running and if lawyers will figure out, they have no license and companies are not existing at all, Mr. Kodolanyi still exists :-) ...

I like your style and wish you all the best!

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April 13, 2017, 02:43:42 AM

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Quote from: deepocean on April 10, 2017, 03:18:43 PM

i think cloudbet is scam.i lost much money because of its. it doesn't pay fast.

Im betting on cloudbet for a long time and no problem at all except for the deposits there are times it takes to long to get confirmed but the withdrawal is instant. Hopefully they will respond to this

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

April 13, 2017, 05:27:43 AM

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Quote from: kobe24 on April 13, 2017, 02:43:42 AM

Quote from: deepocean on April 10, 2017, 03:18:43 PM

i think cloudbet is scam.i lost much money because of its. it doesn't pay fast.

Im betting on cloudbet for a long time and no problem at all except for the deposits there are times it takes to long to get confirmed but the withdrawal is instant. Hopefully they will respond to this

Same here but i withdraw all my funds there and find another sportsbook. We must be aware whether this accusation is true or wrong

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April 13, 2017, 06:31:49 AM

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

April 14, 2017, 04:51:11 AM

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People should be careful betting here.. These people on here don't tag them. They are holding everyones funds..

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

April 23, 2017, 04:42:27 AM

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CLOUDBET IS A BIG SCAM, STAY AWAY COMPLETELY

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

June 07, 2017, 09:25:20 PM

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Thank you all which contacted me with informations about their cases. Cloudbet has a license (who knows for how long), tiger tree and e-gambling are both existing companies and we will soon meet them or their lawyers at least. Kiss

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

August 12, 2017, 12:25:31 AM

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cloudbet will not answer my emails and my mailprovider has sold their domain... so now i cannot withdrawal...

its been 3 days and 7 emails..

anyone know what to do?

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

August 12, 2017, 12:39:39 AM

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Quote from: fuckfbi on August 12, 2017, 12:25:31 AM

cloudbet will not answer my emails and my mailprovider has sold their domain... so now i cannot withdrawal...

its been 3 days and 7 emails..

anyone know what to do?

Contact the new owner of the domain and ask him for helpbecause that could be a huge scam from your email provider

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

August 12, 2017, 06:52:25 AM

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Quote from: AltOfAnAllt on August 12, 2017, 12:39:39 AM

Quote from: fuckfbi on August 12, 2017, 12:25:31 AM

cloudbet will not answer my emails and my mailprovider has sold their domain... so now i cannot withdrawal...

its been 3 days and 7 emails..

anyone know what to do?

Contact the new owner of the domain and ask him for helpbecause that could be a huge scam from your email provider

its mail.com that sold oath.com to this new company oath..

my friend wrote to cloudbet and they answered him within a few hours - i dont get why they wont answer me

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

August 12, 2017, 06:37:29 PM

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Quote from: fuckfbi on August 12, 2017, 06:52:25 AM

Quote from: AltOfAnAllt on August 12, 2017, 12:39:39 AM

Quote from: fuckfbi on August 12, 2017, 12:25:31 AM

cloudbet will not answer my emails and my mailprovider has sold their domain... so now i cannot withdrawal...

its been 3 days and 7 emails..

anyone know what to do?

Contact the new owner of the domain and ask him for helpbecause that could be a huge scam from your email provider

its mail.com that sold oath.com to this new company oath..

my friend wrote to cloudbet and they answered him within a few hours - i dont get why they wont answer me

If you see here in scam acussation there are many problems regarding cloudbet they have been acussed of scaming in the past.
check their thread in bitcointalk and let them know about this scam acussation.

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Re: CLOUDBET SCAM

August 12, 2017, 07:16:12 PM

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Quote from: AltOfAnAllt on August 12, 2017, 06:37:29 PM

Quote from: fuckfbi on August 12, 2017, 06:52:25 AM

Quote from: AltOfAnAllt on August 12, 2017, 12:39:39 AM

Quote from: fuckfbi on August 12, 2017, 12:25:31 AM

cloudbet will not answer my emails and my mailprovider has sold their domain... so now i cannot withdrawal...

its been 3 days and 7 emails..

anyone know what to do?

Contact the new owner of the domain and ask him for helpbecause that could be a huge scam from your email provider

its mail.com that sold oath.com to this new company oath..

my friend wrote to cloudbet and they answered him within a few hours - i dont get why they wont answer me

If you see here in scam acussation there are many problems regarding cloudbet they have been acussed of scaming in the past.
check their thread in bitcointalk and let them know about this scam acussation.

they did answer me now, but first after one of my friends (which played there alot) wrote to them.

and because i cannot get access to my email (because my mail provider sold the domain - and this is official at mail.com) - i cannot withdraw my 1.5BTC and cloudbet will freeze them.

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