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    November 10, 2013, 05:10:32 PM
     #261
    Quote from: pulsecat on November 10, 2013, 04:27:39 PM
    Quote from: alpha492 on October 28, 2013, 10:03:12 AM
    It would be awesome to see this bot converted over to talib and coffeescript so methods could be easily imported from cryptotrader.  Not sure how much work that would be, any thoughts?

    By the way there is standalone tool similar to Gekko that supports all Cryptotrader.org features https://github.com/pulsecat/cryptrade  


    Standalone tool or in fact Cryptotrader.org client (as written on github) ? I'm not too much experienced to understand at a glance the way it operate. Smiley

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    November 10, 2013, 05:16:23 PM
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    Quote from: Gimmoroy on November 10, 2013, 05:10:32 PM
    Quote from: pulsecat on November 10, 2013, 04:27:39 PM
    Quote from: alpha492 on October 28, 2013, 10:03:12 AM
    It would be awesome to see this bot converted over to talib and coffeescript so methods could be easily imported from cryptotrader.  Not sure how much work that would be, any thoughts?

    By the way there is standalone tool similar to Gekko that supports all Cryptotrader.org features https://github.com/pulsecat/cryptrade 


    Standalone tool or in fact Cryptotrader.org client (as written on github) ?

    Well, the tool is fed with market data downloaded from the site, but all trading is performed on client side.
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    November 10, 2013, 06:15:15 PM
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    I'm working on such stuff, but it will need some time, before it is ready for release. Looking for a collab, but no interest so far...
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    November 10, 2013, 07:37:49 PM
    Last edit: November 10, 2013, 08:43:38 PM by Gimmoroy
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    Quote from: pulsecat on November 10, 2013, 05:16:23 PM
    Well, the tool is fed with market data downloaded from the site, but all trading is performed on client side.

    IMHO - very bad idea. Bitcoincharts is well known "stable" service. This days I have a satanic problems as my bots must load historical data from it, but have 404,502 and more shit.

    Maybe you build a really better service, but I don't need this.

    I (as a user) need a standalone bot, which:
     
    can sit on some VDS and keep all it need in local environment
    have trading algorithm which can be modified or completely rewritten without head ash
    have interface to major exchanges API (bitstamp,btce,btcchina)
    have modular structure, which allow it to be real open source, but not the one more programmer's toy (old,without eye and paw on github's attic)  

    Something like QtBitcoinTrader or MT4,  but concentrated on easy implementation of different trade strategies on different exchanges. Based on node.js.




      

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    November 11, 2013, 12:44:22 AM
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    I totally agree with almost everything you said. But I won't use javascript for such a project.
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    November 11, 2013, 01:10:41 AM
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    Quote from: daybyter on November 11, 2013, 12:44:22 AM
    I totally agree with almost everything you said. But I won't use javascript for such a project.

    Written in Java it will not be popular
    in php it will be stupid because anyway it will use JS for interfaces
    Pithon - it will not be reliable.. one more "Basic like" - C# - win only

    You have no choice  Wink

    node.js is just like bitcoin: you can resist, but you can't ignore. People make very powerful (including high loaded )  projects on it.
     


     

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    November 11, 2013, 01:21:19 AM
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    Quote from: Gimmoroy on November 10, 2013, 07:37:49 PM
    Quote from: pulsecat on November 10, 2013, 05:16:23 PM
    Well, the tool is fed with market data downloaded from the site, but all trading is performed on client side.

    IMHO - very bad idea. Bitcoincharts is well known "stable" service. This days I have a satanic problems as my bots must load historical data from it, but have 404,502 and more shit.

    Maybe you build a really better service, but I don't need this.

    I (as a user) need a standalone bot, which:
     
    can sit on some VDS and keep all it need in local environment
    have trading algorithm which can be modified or completely rewritten without head ash
    have interface to major exchanges API (bitstamp,btce,btcchina)
    have modular structure, which allow it to be real open source, but not the one more programmer's toy (old,without eye and paw on github's attic)  

    Something like QtBitcoinTrader or MT4,  but concentrated on easy implementation of different trade strategies on different exchanges. Based on node.js.




      


    Agreed. Cryptotrader is the closest I've found but nothing as of yet can handle the algorithms I have in mind. I wish I had more programming experience so I could do it myself.

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    November 11, 2013, 01:45:29 AM
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    So far I'm very happy with my java code.

    TradesLikeAPotato: I am still looking for a collab, if you want to discuss your ideas ...
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    November 11, 2013, 01:58:50 AM
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    Quote from: daybyter on November 11, 2013, 01:45:29 AM
    So far I'm very happy with my java code.

    TradesLikeAPotato: I am still looking for a collab, if you want to discuss your ideas ...


    I've sent you a message.

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    November 12, 2013, 09:55:07 AM
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    Why are we discussing cryptotrader in the Gekko topic?

    Quote from: alpha492 on October 28, 2013, 10:03:12 AM
    It would be awesome to see this bot converted over to talib and coffeescript so methods could be easily imported from cryptotrader.  Not sure how much work that would be, any thoughts?

    This bot doesn't do anything special (trading-algo wise). This is nothing you can't write in 5 minutes in coffeescript.
    Perhaps more people here should do some self education on what good bad indicators are and try to understand them.

    BTW: Because none of the current bots out there were working for me, I coded my own one in Node.JS in 2 days, working perfectly. All of you could do this if you put a little effort in it...
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    November 12, 2013, 10:53:12 AM
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    Quote from: San1ty on November 12, 2013, 09:55:07 AM
    Why are we discussing cryptotrader in the Gekko topic?

    BTW: Because none of the current bots out there were working for me, I coded my own one in Node.JS in 2 days, working perfectly. All of you could do this if you put a little effort in it...

    Want to make it open source?


     

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    November 12, 2013, 11:01:53 AM
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    Quote from: Gimmoroy on November 12, 2013, 10:53:12 AM
    Quote from: San1ty on November 12, 2013, 09:55:07 AM
    Why are we discussing cryptotrader in the Gekko topic?

    BTW: Because none of the current bots out there were working for me, I coded my own one in Node.JS in 2 days, working perfectly. All of you could do this if you put a little effort in it...

    Want to make it open source?

    I'm thinking of making a GitHub repository yes. The code still needs a lot of cleaning and testing (currently running for over 48 hours and I'm double-checking it's decision making). I'll make my own topic when the time comes.

    Currently I'm not using a vanilla (basic) indicator. And I might want to keep that to myself or have the bot call a server of mine for it's decision making and open-source the rest. Or I could add a simpler indicator for the open-source version.

    So still a lot of things to consider.
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    November 12, 2013, 11:49:03 AM
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    Can you publish logs or smt to estimate real efficiency of bot/algo?

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    November 12, 2013, 12:08:01 PM
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    Sure, when I get back to my testing machine, I'll have a look through the logs. Which reminds me, I definitely still need a profit reporting module.
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    November 13, 2013, 12:15:43 AM
     #275
    I have not tried to run the bot with real trading and I was looking in the code for more details how it works and I found the buy/sell part of it:

    Code:
    if(this.infinityOrderExchange)
       amount = 10000;
    else
       amount = this.getBalance(this.currency) this.ticker.ask;

    MtGox has infinityOrder so it will try to buy/sell 10000 Bitcoins everytime or usdBalance/currentBTCprice otherwise.

    My suggestion is to enable in the config some parameter that sets the amount (in USD) you ware willing to spend every trade. I don't want to run the bot on the full amount of my MtGox account, I want to setup some max value I'm willing to spend.

    I think it's a pretty good sugestion

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    November 13, 2013, 12:17:13 AM
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    Quote from: andrepcg on November 13, 2013, 12:15:43 AM
    I have not tried to run the bot with real trading and I was looking in the code for more details how it works and I found the buy/sell part of it:

    Code:
    if(this.infinityOrderExchange)
       amount = 10000;
    else
       amount = this.getBalance(this.currency) this.ticker.ask;

    MtGox has infinityOrder so it will try to buy/sell 10000 Bitcoins everytime or usdBalance/currentBTCprice otherwise.

    My suggestion is to enable in the config some parameter that sets the amount (in USD) you ware willing to spend every trade. I don't want to run the bot on the full amount of my MtGox account, I want to setup some max value I'm willing to spend.

    I think it's a pretty good sugestion

    Good point, I am looking into changing the whole config structure to make everything more clear.
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    November 13, 2013, 12:28:03 AM
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    Good!

    I was thinking something like this: I set the max trade value at 10 USD, so it tries to buy X BTC with the available 10USD. Later, when the sell order is activated (presumably at a higher price) it stores the profits and keep "betting" the same USD. Maybe some people will like to use the profits for the next trade so a configuration for this would be good.

    One more way to improve the bot. Implement a stop loss config so if the EMA crosses down and the price is falling, don't sell the BTC unless they're less than the stop loss, and maybe in the long run it could be beneficial. As the price rises, the stop loss could rise to so it could be a percentage of drop after the top or something like that.

    A couple of suggestions to improve the bot, I'm not asking for anything, I could code them myself.

    Keep up the good work!

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    November 21, 2013, 04:09:07 PM
    Last edit: November 22, 2013, 02:25:08 PM by Queenvio
     #278
    Hey, first of all, this project is a nice idear.

    I installed it and want to trade at BTC-e


    But I get the Error-Message:

    Code:
    Failed to load historical trades from bitcoincharts

    the "Interval" is set to 30 mins at the moment, I also tryed 15 and 5 mins.


    Has someone a solution?

    Greetings


    Edit: MtGox is working, but im looking for BTC-e

    P.S. Also if I dont want to trade at Bitstamp, I get the Error
    Code:
    /home/gekko/methods/realtime-candle-fetcher.js:98
        throw 'Failed to load historical trades from ' + this.watcher.name;
                                                       ^
    Failed to load historical trades from Bitstamp

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    November 24, 2013, 01:15:22 AM
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    What is the best bot to use?

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    November 24, 2013, 10:50:10 PM
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    Quote from: tropicthunder on November 24, 2013, 01:15:22 AM
    What is the best bot to use?

    Best to use a bot that makes money in the long run Wink
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