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Jesus H. Christ...!!

I had no idea about the length of gravitate's misdeeds as there was a period of time where I wasn't active on here and apparently that was when all of this was coming out of the woodwork. I had bought some MicroSoul 0.01s from him back in the day and IIRC there were some issues of sloppiness/delay in funding even then. But when I stumbled upon this thread tonight I was completely shocked and disgusted by his attitude towards his customers who had more than legitimate complaints! Just terrible man...

It seems Casascius set the model in motion and then things have only gone downhill since then as the BTC price continued to increase and almost nobody else seemed to match the strength & caliber of morals & secure practices that Casascius himself had.

And by the way I'm not just necro-ing this old thread for nothing- when I started reading this thread and clicked on gravitate's profile it seems he was active on here just barely 2 months ago.

If I was one of the handful of members that is still royally screwed from his shenanigans I would seriously consider tracking him down from the couple people who have most recently spoken of his contact info. And he was a speaker or guest at some BTC conference or something after all of this mess it seems (see quote below)?? That sounds like a most unfortunate idea as well; someone of that nature should be blacklisted from the BTC community for Life. Who knows if/how many more people he was able to continue to scam after seemingly appearing at that conference and switching up to different forums/websites.

-snarlpill

Quote from: vizique on December 16, 2019, 11:28:47 AM

Gravitate does appear at CoinFest UK in Manchester in April next year if you needed to bring it up with him directly.

Viz

I have said may times. A hot wallet on a phone is not secure.
I have also said the said, a coin or anything else that has a key that was not generated by you is also not secure.

Do you know where it's been? Do you know who produced the holograms? and how many were made? and if they are all accounted for?
How difficult would it be for a dishonest person at the printer to print out an extra roll of holograms, then buy the funded coins, peel copy the private key and paste them back on and sell them?

Even when you think you are secure you can still have other people do stupid things: https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/5280338.msg55326759#msg55326759

I actually have WAY more in funded collectables then I really feel comfortable with.
Everyone has their own risk tolerance and can make their own decisions.

But yeah, Gravitate is an ass.

-Dave

Quote from: snarlpill on November 10, 2020, 05:51:03 AM

It seems Casascius set the model in motion and then things have only gone downhill since then as the BTC price continued to increase and almost nobody else seemed to match the strength & caliber of morals & secure practices that Casascius himself had.

Casascius vs everything else has a similar trajectory to Bitcoin's virgin birth vs all the shit that came afterwards.

The first is the purest. After that the vultures get a sniff of blood.

There are of course many solid makers of physical items but there's too much trust required and it's too obvious a temptation for the nefarious.

Quote from: gentlemand on November 12, 2020, 12:17:53 AM

There are of course many solid makers of physical items but there's too much trust required and it's too obvious a temptation for the nefarious.

Indeed. Trust on this forum is something too often not earned, and when earned not appreciated nearly enough.

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