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    August 23, 2013, 11:37:45 AM
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    Quote from: Noitev on August 23, 2013, 10:44:40 AM
    that's one mighty silly looking setup, hope there's no fans on top of your computer Tongue

    Also, props for the floppy drive.

    You have me at a loss: silly as in "inefficient" or as in "awesome"?  Grin
    All BEs can be touched without burning your fingers and the airflow between the rows is good, yet I can have them sitting compactly.
    I was actually planning to have them on top of another newer PC and install 2x120mm exhaust vents on top (that machine runs pretty cool as it is). I might just go through with it.

    Oh, and you can't live without floppy. How are you supposed to move data (yes, all 1.44MB of it) around?  Tongue

    Edit: And just a thought: 60BEs pushing 20 GHs in the same amount of space as BFL Jalapeno pushing 7GHs  Cheesy
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    August 23, 2013, 11:51:46 AM
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    on a pseudo related note, I found a 268 million hash on 1 of my 10 miners only for it to be stale Sad

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    August 23, 2013, 12:32:38 PM
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    Ah, that one. I thought the name sounded familiar. Well, I haven't been able to find a single block, going from 300MHs last August to 20GHs this August. You, at least, found something. Tongue

    Now, back on topic. Does anyone have any more USB hub experience to share. Wink
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    August 23, 2013, 12:48:02 PM
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    Currently running 48 erupters on 6 Rosewill RHB-500 with one for daisy chaining to a Raspberry Pi.

    Smooth so far, and as to the amount of devices a raspberry pi can support it seems like it's a hardware limitation.  I plugged in a Jalapeno and it didn't like it too much, it ran for a while then started crashing a few hours later constantly, resulting in a pi reboot to get everything back up.

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    August 23, 2013, 01:09:58 PM
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    No cooling? You are a brave man.
    It's my experience as well that Rosewill/SL-Lab hub smoothly handles 8 devices.
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    August 23, 2013, 01:20:41 PM
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    Quote from: Nemo1024 on August 23, 2013, 01:09:58 PM
    No cooling? You are a brave man.
    It's my experience as well that Rosewill/SL-Lab hub smoothly handles 8 devices.

    Hasn't arrived yet, I've been somewhat on edge but the fans come today.  I'll be running two of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106140 and I already have a few Arctic usb fans on the powerstrips.

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    August 24, 2013, 01:12:54 AM
    Last edit: August 24, 2013, 01:29:06 AM by Unacceptable
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    Ok,learning curve here  Cheesy

    I bought these:

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0058RLD9C/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item

    Almost $10 with shipping for 10 pieces-5.5mm x 2.1mm,very cool device & works very well.These work on my old USB hubs only,due to the inside diameter being too small.

    I picked up one these from ebay:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/110638231265?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

    Almost $25 with shipping-It too works very well,so far,if it dies or malfunctions,I'll report on it later  Cool

    So,now I needed to find that same barrel adapter but in a 5.5mm x 2.5mm size (I think thats the size,no way to measure but by eye) to fit these:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817659004

    Works well with 4 BE's,not 5, (2.6 amps) but the wallwort gets very warm,not too hot to touch,but very warm...........

    Found em !!!!!!!!!!!   Grin

    http://www.bixnet.com/cnt525m.html

    I'll be ordering a few & review them after I get em  Cool

    WARNING,watch the polarity,get a volt meter & check + & - is in the correct position,center or outer posts,BEFORE you connect!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I 'm glad I checked,I cut an end off a wallwort & one wire had a dash marked on it,thinking it was negative,I wired it up.When I checked it was positive  Shocked  No idea why it wasn't maked with little +'s like most are  Huh

    So,double check your polarities BEFORE connecting to your hub/device's  Wink
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    August 24, 2013, 02:28:42 AM
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    This is an update on the MCM hubs.  As I've mentioned in my initial review, it supports seven miners.  There are only 46 miners on this setup; 1+2 rear ports on the last two hubs respectively are not populated (waiting for more miners to come in):



    ...and here they are in action:

    http://s1330.photobucket.com/user/visdude/media/MVI_0112_zps64f2f52e.mp4.html

    The hub stands/bases were originally affixed onto the desk (here) but I found it to be inflexible and inconvenient.  So, I got a cheapo clipboard and a roll of masking tape at the local 99-cent store and made a movable platform out of it to organize the hubs.  This setup is ideal with these hubs since one can just pull it from the base and work on it independently from the rest (modular).  Partly seen in the lower right hand corner of the image is another hub.  I have started to create another row of seven MCM-type generic hubs (all black this time) along the other side of the clipboard.  I'm pairing them with 4A bricks (much better alternative than wall warts in that it does not waste and occupy two outlets on the power strip).  It comes out a little cheaper than MCM's without being subjected to exorbitant shipping charges and applicable sales tax.  I would also have a bit of a headroom power wise (.5A more).

    The setup is currently hosted through a single USB 2.0 port on an old netbook and draws 11W off the wall while mining.

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    August 24, 2013, 06:59:39 AM
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    Visdude, which angled adapters do you use there? And which fans are those? USB-powered?
    I've updated the OP with info on your setup.
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    August 24, 2013, 07:56:22 AM
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    Quote from: visdude on August 24, 2013, 02:28:42 AM
    This is an update on the MCM hubs.  As I've mentioned in my initial review, it supports seven miners.  There are only 46 miners on this setup; 1+2 rear ports on the last two hubs respectively are not populated (waiting for more miners to come in):



    ...and here they are in action:

    http://s1330.photobucket.com/user/visdude/media/MVI_0112_zps64f2f52e.mp4.html

    The hub stands/bases were originally affixed onto the desk (here) but I found it to be inflexible and inconvenient.  So, I got a cheapo clipboard and a roll of masking tape at the local 99-cent store and made a movable platform out of it to organize the hubs.  This setup is ideal with these hubs since one can just pull it from the base and work on it independently from the rest (modular).  Partly seen in the lower right hand corner of the image is another hub.  I have started to create another row of seven MCM-type generic hubs (all black this time) along the other side of the clipboard.  I'm pairing them with 4A bricks (much better alternative than wall warts in that it does not waste and occupy two outlets on the power strip).  It comes out a little cheaper than MCM's without being subjected to exorbitant shipping charges and applicable sales tax.  I would also have a bit of a headroom power wise (.5A more).

    The setup is currently hosted through a single USB 2.0 port on an old netbook and draws 11W off the wall while mining.

    That is an awesome setup man.
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    August 24, 2013, 08:00:47 AM
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    SolidbitShop did you overclock some of your ASIC miners to 400Mh/s or did they just arrive like that? If you did overclock them, how is the heat production off of those ones?
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    August 24, 2013, 10:34:43 AM
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    guys, can you add an colum "backfeed y/n" please?
    and hub owners should check and report

    power backfeeding (vcc on uplink port connected to power input)
    is a serious problem for some hardware, i nearly killed my netbook

    also such hubs tend to steal current from each other when cascaded

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    August 24, 2013, 12:59:38 PM
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    http://dearhusband.com/monoclemanhub1.JPG
    http://dearhusband.com/monoclemanhub2.JPG

    So my experiment based on the works of other in this thread payed off, I bought the power supply from ebay and hooked it up to 4 hubs using thise barrel connectors from both mcm and monoprice.

    The hubs themselves were $6 each, the power supply was $20 and I have them all plugged into my aitech 3.0 USB hub. So Far so good, 42 BE's running pretty smoothly.

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    August 24, 2013, 04:37:10 PM
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    Quote from: Xer0 on August 24, 2013, 10:34:43 AM
    guys, can you add an colum "backfeed y/n" please?
    and hub owners should check and report

    power backfeeding (vcc on uplink port connected to power input)
    is a serious problem for some hardware, i nearly killed my netbook

    also such hubs tend to steal current from each other when cascaded

    You should expect backfeeding and/or power draw on USB line-in as default. To be on the safe side, splice the USB cable and cut the red wire, as was suggested before.

    I can at least say regarding my D-Links that they draw from input USB. Without power on the intermittent hub, they can run 5 BEs; with additional power they run 6.

    @MonocleMan: You might want to rotate the images 180 degrees. Wink
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    August 24, 2013, 05:18:42 PM
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    Quote from: Nemo1024 on August 24, 2013, 04:37:10 PM
    To be on the safe side, splice the USB cable
    i actually use a cheapstake passive 7-portish hub with desoldered all vcc pins
    was the better option as my powering hubs all have non replaceable cables Wink

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    August 24, 2013, 11:48:49 PM
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    lyth0s nice setup  Grin

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    August 25, 2013, 12:25:58 PM
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    Update on my cheap 10 port hubs - the DC Barrel plugs melted on the two cables I made (my crap soldering is most likely to blame), so those two hubs now have had a DC Barrel jack-adectomy and now have a power cable soldered directly in place of the jacks.  And some of the USB sockets need re-flowing - intermittent power connections to them.

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    August 25, 2013, 05:55:17 PM
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    Quote from: pidge on August 25, 2013, 12:25:58 PM
    Update on my cheap 10 port hubs - the DC Barrel plugs melted on the two cables I made (my crap soldering is most likely to blame), so those two hubs now have had a DC Barrel jack-adectomy and now have a power cable soldered directly in place of the jacks.  And some of the USB sockets need re-flowing - intermittent power connections to them.

    Sounds like a fire disaster waiting to happen.  Tongue
    Have you tried those non-soldering barrel plugs and thicker cables?
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    August 25, 2013, 08:50:20 PM
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    Quote from: Nemo1024 on August 25, 2013, 05:55:17 PM
    Quote from: pidge on August 25, 2013, 12:25:58 PM
    Update on my cheap 10 port hubs - the DC Barrel plugs melted on the two cables I made (my crap soldering is most likely to blame), so those two hubs now have had a DC Barrel jack-adectomy and now have a power cable soldered directly in place of the jacks.  And some of the USB sockets need re-flowing - intermittent power connections to them.

    Sounds like a fire disaster waiting to happen.  Tongue
    Have you tried those non-soldering barrel plugs and thicker cables?

    Given that the Hubs were ~US$9 each, and I've already spent US$2 on a barrel plug and wire for each, and I wanted to get them running again ASAP, out came the soldering iron....

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    August 26, 2013, 03:38:06 AM
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    3 orico 10 port and 2 aitech 10 port all running with 9+fan solid over 3 days now....

    http://www.dopelabs.com/images/am_usb_be.jpg
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