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    • ak111in
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    March 05, 2014, 12:16:03 PM
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    UPDATE: Middlecoin Monitor

    https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/428298.0


    Hi,

    Due to minor bug on the server, the app stopped loading data and always gave 'Internet connection is not available' error on refresh. The bug has been fixed and the app will now be working properly. In case of any further issue please post on the app thread https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/428298.0.

    Regards.

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    March 05, 2014, 01:20:30 PM
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    Quote from: ebliever on March 04, 2014, 06:33:26 PM
    Quote from: xorpheus on March 04, 2014, 05:11:53 PM
    It just looks like the stats are not updating, or something is "stuck" on the share processing side of things.  It will probably come right soon after the admin notices.

    Any idea when H2O usually wakes up/checks in so he can fix things? Is there anyone else involved who can do so or is it a 1-man show?

    I was hashing on MC overnight, but switched to CM because mediocre results are better than flying blind and then "oh, we mined a bad fork for a couple hours" or some other flop. MC has gone from leading CM and Wafflepool to beating them occasionally but doing terrible the rest of the time. I'm not going to guess which it is, if he's not paying attention then that means the pool is running on auto-pilot, and will thus be beaten by a more actively managed pool.

    No idea on either count sorry.  What is CM?

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    March 05, 2014, 02:10:40 PM
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    CM is Clevermining.com

    A lot of people seem to switch between CM, Middlecoin and Wafflepool.
    Luke 12:15-21

    Ephesians 2:8-9

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    March 05, 2014, 02:12:23 PM
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    Sorry for this nooooob question but...

    Can i use 1 btc adres for 4 rigs ?

    I dont care for individual charts.

    Thanks...

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    March 05, 2014, 02:19:10 PM
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    Quote from: playspel on March 05, 2014, 02:12:23 PM
    Sorry for this nooooob question but...

    Can i use 1 btc adres for 4 rigs ?

    I dont care for individual charts.

    Thanks...


    Yes, you can.
    BTC: 1788UegKXGXXicfPcbZ1bmSUJ99ZWRCF7p
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    March 05, 2014, 02:41:21 PM
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    Quote from: ebliever on March 05, 2014, 02:10:40 PM
    CM is Clevermining.com

    A lot of people seem to switch between CM, Middlecoin and Wafflepool.

    Cheers.  I know of Wafflepool but hadn't heard of Clevermining until now. 

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    March 05, 2014, 10:25:17 PM
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    Another noob question Smiley I have a btc (0.03) transaction from yesterday morning but still not verified yet. Is this normal ?

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    March 06, 2014, 12:44:12 AM
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    Between Middlecoin Wafflepool and CleverMining, I tend to spend most of my time on Clevermining. The BTC/Day per Mh/s is usually a wash but the clevermining website and stats are the best followed by Wafflepool. Middlecoin has the worst frontend and the operator/H20 often goes MIA during critical times and we are left to guess what's going on. It's clear H20 doesn't care about middlecoin as much as he once did or he would do something to prevent the mass exodus of miners. Hash rates have dropped nearly down to 50% of what they were a month ago.

    I just can't understand what he's thinking.  Huh

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    March 06, 2014, 01:20:42 AM
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    Quote from: Stanr010 on March 06, 2014, 12:44:12 AM
    Between Middlecoin Wafflepool and CleverMining, I tend to spend most of my time on Clevermining. The BTC/Day per Mh/s is usually a wash but the clevermining website and stats are the best followed by Wafflepool. Middlecoin has the worst frontend and the operator/H20 often goes MIA during critical times and we are left to guess what's going on. It's clear H20 doesn't care about middlecoin as much as he once did or he would do something to prevent the mass exodus of miners. Hash rates have dropped nearly down to 50% of what they were a month ago.

    I just can't understand what he's thinking.  Huh

    Me neither. Not caring, apparently. Still pulling in over $3k in coin a day, so he must not be too concerned.

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    March 06, 2014, 03:54:55 AM
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    So no payout for 48 hours now or is that just me?  Also our hash from the 24 hours prior when the stats where really screwed seem to have not counted for anything  Huh

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    March 06, 2014, 05:07:28 AM
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    Quote from: ellave on March 06, 2014, 03:54:55 AM
    So no payout for 48 hours now or is that just me?  Also our hash from the 24 hours prior when the stats where really screwed seem to have not counted for anything  Huh

    I well as

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    March 06, 2014, 05:43:26 AM
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    Quote from: locksmith9 on March 06, 2014, 01:20:42 AM
    Quote from: Stanr010 on March 06, 2014, 12:44:12 AM
    Between Middlecoin Wafflepool and CleverMining, I tend to spend most of my time on Clevermining. The BTC/Day per Mh/s is usually a wash but the clevermining website and stats are the best followed by Wafflepool. Middlecoin has the worst frontend and the operator/H20 often goes MIA during critical times and we are left to guess what's going on. It's clear H20 doesn't care about middlecoin as much as he once did or he would do something to prevent the mass exodus of miners. Hash rates have dropped nearly down to 50% of what they were a month ago.

    I just can't understand what he's thinking.  Huh

    Me neither. Not caring, apparently. Still pulling in over $3k in coin a day, so he must not be too concerned.
    Maybe he just got burnt out :/ Shame as he was set for life with this operation... Even if scrypt ends up going all ASIC, people still need pools, and he can branch out with N-Factor and other algorithms to attract even more miners. He had the first mover advantage and consistently showed greater profit than other pools. Over 23GH on this pool was pure insanity, with over 400 BTC a day being paid out... how many business run by one guy do over $300,000 in revenue a day? Furthermore, with rigs selling on sites like eBay for $1 per kh/s, that was like 23 million in equipment he was effectively controlling...

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    March 06, 2014, 06:03:22 AM
    Last edit: March 06, 2014, 06:26:24 AM by trc
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    It's a two ended stick with you-know-what on both ends. Channeling that much power without breaking something is hard if not impossible.

    The only thing he needs to improve is communication - and a bit more manual trades like in the old days, alright. That's thousands of people and you can't make them all happy but a few tweets a day would go a long way.

    All of them multipools have their own kind of problems at the moment. Just a brief experience of a few days on each shows that:

    Wafflepool doesn't know what to mine with all that power right now without forking an actually profitable coin. They mined WorldCoin almost all day long. It goes like this: WDC-DOGE-LTC-WDC-WDC-WDC-LTC....

    CleverMining has still absurd amounts of rejected shares issue and yes, this actually affects your earnings. Duh!

    HashCows guys seem to be working personally on the background but their problem is the website interface. Lacking the simplest of the stats even some 20Mh/s pool is able to offer. If they can keep up the manual trading and get some technical help for the site maybe, they'd be #1 in no time.
    >> nope

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    March 06, 2014, 07:35:37 AM
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    2014-03-04 02:27      0.03705025
    2014-03-05 01:39      0.01280991
    2014-03-06 05:15      0.03644351

    Total for 4 ( Start saturday at 13:00) days payout are 0,08630367 at 3500khash

    Is that normal?

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    March 06, 2014, 07:39:08 AM
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    Quote from: DraculJC on March 06, 2014, 07:35:37 AM
    2014-03-04 02:27      0.03705025
    2014-03-05 01:39      0.01280991
    2014-03-06 05:15      0.03644351

    Total for 4 ( Start saturday at 13:00) days payout are 0,08630367 at 3500khash

    Is that normal?

    No.

    Normally you should get -0.12 per MH at Middlecoin.  h2o is a convicted coin thief.

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    March 06, 2014, 07:48:30 AM
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    Quote from: trc on March 06, 2014, 06:03:22 AM
    It's a two ended stick with you-know-what on both ends. Channeling that much power without breaking something is hard if not impossible.

    The only thing he needs to improve is communication - and a bit more manual trades like in the old days, alright. That's thousands of people and you can't make them all happy but a few tweets a day would go a long way.

    All of them multipools have their own kind of problems at the moment. Just a brief experience of a few days on each shows that:

    Wafflepool doesn't know what to mine with all that power right now without forking an actually profitable coin. They mined WorldCoin almost all day long. It goes like this: WDC-DOGE-LTC-WDC-WDC-WDC-LTC....

    CleverMining has still absurd amounts of rejected shares issue and yes, this actually affects your earnings. Duh!

    HashCows guys seem to be working personally on the background but their problem is the website interface. Lacking the simplest of the stats even some 20Mh/s pool is able to offer. If they can keep up the manual trading and get some technical help for the site maybe, they'd be #1 in no time.

    What's actually happening is that H2o has become so powerful he can now steal coins that you mine on other pools. That's why they are all low paying ATM.  Tongue

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    March 06, 2014, 08:01:48 AM
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    Quote from: Dishes on March 06, 2014, 07:48:30 AM


    What's actually happening is that H2o has become so powerful he can now steal coins that you mine on other pools. That's why they are all low paying ATM.  Tongue

    Amen to that.

    He is one sneaky mofo... Cheesy

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    March 06, 2014, 09:20:44 AM
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    Waterfall Average, who is best? Interesting results.


    Let say you want to see which pool (listed by Poolpicker) would gave you the most BTC/Mh/s if you were to use any of it for any length of time!
    So in other words, what are the results if you want to know the average of averages of any consecutive days on each pool?

    See my Excel sheet, and debate me that I did the calculation wrong in it! I am unsure of myself.

    It turns out MC is clear 4th with 0.0086 BTC/Mh/s.
    CM, HC, WF are at least 16% better with CM being the leader of these three with 0.0106 BTC/Mh/s.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/75de6mam5n1mia3/PoolPicker%20WaterfallAverage.xls

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    March 06, 2014, 09:29:34 AM
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    Quote from: Accordus on March 06, 2014, 09:20:44 AM
    Waterfall Average, who is best? Interesting results.


    Let say you want to see which pool (listed by Poolpicker) would gave you the most BTC/Mh/s if you were to use any of it for any length of time!
    So in other words, what are the results if you want to know the average of averages of any consecutive days on each pool?

    See my Excel sheet, and debate me that I did the calculation wrong in it! I am unsure of myself.

    It turns out MC is clear 4th with 0.0086 BTC/Mh/s.
    CM, HC, WF are at least 16% better with CM being the leader of these three with 0.0106 BTC/Mh/s.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/75de6mam5n1mia3/PoolPicker%20WaterfallAverage.xls
    Yes a simple 21-day average is available here where I assume you grabbed your stats from:
    http://poolpicker.eu/

    The flaw in your point is that past performance means nothing for future results.

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    March 06, 2014, 09:37:45 AM
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    @accordus

    Try to upload it on google drive or similar. Not downloading a random excel file. No offence.

    However, it's not that simple to compare!

    Those reports only show the accepted shares and disregard rejected shares. For example, you direct your rig to clever and got 0.01BTC/MHs/day with a reject % of 10 and got the same 0.01BTC/MHs/day with a reject % of 2 from another pool. The difference of 8% isn't reflected on the BTC/MHs/day calculations. On which one do you think you actually made more?

    There's also worker unit efficiency. On one server you get 80% efficiency, on the other you get 95%. Many factors affect actual income and the reported hash power by the pools aren't your actual, pure hash power.

    So you can be earning more on a pool with lower BTC/MHs/day if those other factors are in your favor and the reported hash rate is closer to what you have.
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