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    December 09, 2011, 02:24:11 PM
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    Quote from: caston on December 09, 2011, 02:16:53 PM
    I haven't tried the software but at the moment there is a lot of trading on mtgox and other exchanges where the exchange takes a slice in the form of a "trade commission". Ideally these should be replaced with transaction fees in the p2p exchange model and these fees are paid out to miners. This will make mining for transactions fees very profitable indeed. Are there any plans to integrate a p2p exchange into the existing system in such a way that miners get the transaction fees for these trades?

    I would also like to see it as a kind of p2p ebay where anything can be traded e.g. food, clothing, commodities and so on.

    Intersango already does no commission.

    But I see your point, and it's a good idea to say the least.

    I think if Dark Exchange gets to where we are all dreaming it should be then DarkBay could follow?
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    December 09, 2011, 02:31:00 PM
    Last edit: December 09, 2011, 02:41:33 PM by caston
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    I also noticed this thread about a peer 2 peer share exchange.

    https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/54033

    Quote from: Sultan on December 09, 2011, 02:24:11 PM

    I think if Dark Exchange gets to where we are all dreaming it should be then DarkBay could follow?

    Perhaps... also it could be for p2p classifieds which are of course different to auctions. Classifieds open up to many possibilities such as freelancing and help wanted e.g. people willing to work for coins.
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    December 09, 2011, 02:59:40 PM
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    Quote from: Andrew Bitcoiner on December 09, 2011, 06:04:25 AM
    whats the status of this project?
    Last time I tried to get it to run it showed errors, which I posted, but I never heard back. So as far as I know it does not work.

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    December 10, 2011, 01:47:07 AM
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    Quote from: HostFat on November 29, 2011, 03:13:58 PM
    Quote from: jago25_98 on November 29, 2011, 02:46:43 PM
    Orisis and Iris: Iris docs are in Italian. The darn thing is close source and dynamically compiled to an X11 so can't run on a server!
    I think that it's quiet easy to install Isis, I'll write somewhere how to do it.
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    December 10, 2011, 03:20:31 AM
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    Quote from: Andrew Bitcoiner on December 10, 2011, 03:19:10 AM
    come on dev's here is your chance to make the biggest name for yourself since Satoshi.  this project is the key to ensuring bitcoins success no matter what kind of government or bank crackdown.  start coding!!

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    December 10, 2011, 03:24:32 AM
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    Quote from: ctoon6 on December 10, 2011, 03:20:31 AM
    Quote from: Andrew Bitcoiner on December 10, 2011, 03:19:10 AM
    come on dev's here is your chance to make the biggest name for yourself since Satoshi.  this project is the key to ensuring bitcoins success no matter what kind of government or bank crackdown.  start coding!!

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    December 11, 2011, 01:37:24 PM
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    Quote from: Andrew Bitcoiner on December 10, 2011, 03:19:10 AM
    come on dev's here is your chance to make the biggest name for yourself since Satoshi.  this project is the key to ensuring bitcoins success no matter what kind of government or bank crackdown.  start coding!!

    I think you're giving too much emphasis on it. It's not that of a big deal since it's not escrowed. In the end this is just a desktop client to do what OTC or bitmarket.eu are already doing.

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    January 03, 2012, 01:46:46 AM
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    I think you're giving too much emphasis on it. It's not that of a big deal since it's not escrowed. In the end this is just a desktop client to do what OTC or bitmarket.eu are already doing.
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    Both of those are centralised. Escrow facility is important too though
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    January 03, 2012, 11:27:14 AM
     #129
    Quote from: jago25_98 on January 03, 2012, 01:46:46 AM


    I think you're giving too much emphasis on it. It's not that of a big deal since it's not escrowed. In the end this is just a desktop client to do what OTC or bitmarket.eu are already doing.

    Both of those are centralised. Escrow facility is important too though
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    Maybe try to have something more like RipplePay model instead of escrow? Automated and trusted peers?

    Of course, you'd need a critical mass before it becomes viable.

    Or rather, is it possible to piggyback off of RipplePay anyway?
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    January 03, 2012, 11:39:58 AM
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    Quote from: Sultan on January 03, 2012, 11:27:14 AM
    Quote from: jago25_98 on January 03, 2012, 01:46:46 AM
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    I think you're giving too much emphasis on it. It's not that of a big deal since it's not escrowed. In the end this is just a desktop client to do what OTC or bitmarket.eu are already doing.

    Both of those are centralised. Escrow facility is important too though

    Maybe try to have something more like RipplePay model instead of escrow? Automated and trusted peers?

    Remember there's no functional implementation of the distributed ripple protocol yet and ripplepay relies on a centralized server.

    Quote from: Sultan on January 03, 2012, 11:27:14 AM
    Or rather, is it possible to piggyback off of RipplePay anyway?

    I don't understand. Can you explain the question more?
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    January 03, 2012, 11:51:45 AM
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    Quote from: jtimon on January 03, 2012, 11:39:58 AM
    Quote from: Sultan on January 03, 2012, 11:27:14 AM
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    I think you're giving too much emphasis on it. It's not that of a big deal since it's not escrowed. In the end this is just a desktop client to do what OTC or bitmarket.eu are already doing.

    Both of those are centralised. Escrow facility is important too though

    Maybe try to have something more like RipplePay model instead of escrow? Automated and trusted peers?

    Remember there's no functional implementation of the distributed ripple protocol yet and ripplepay relies on a centralized server.

    Quote from: Sultan on January 03, 2012, 11:27:14 AM
    Or rather, is it possible to piggyback off of RipplePay anyway?

    I don't understand. Can you explain the question more?


    True, no implementation of it yet, I think this is what needs to be tackled ad I agree, a centralised server means central point of failure. The only way I can think of doing it is everybody on the daisy-chain of a transaction verifying the transaction.

    Sorry, what I meant by 'piggybacking' was just sign up to tge site. A crude solution with a central point of failure but a start?
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    January 03, 2012, 01:06:10 PM
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    Quote from: Sultan on January 03, 2012, 11:51:45 AM
    True, no implementation of it yet, I think this is what needs to be tackled ad I agree, a centralised server means central point of failure. The only way I can think of doing it is everybody on the daisy-chain of a transaction verifying the transaction.

    Sorry, what I meant by 'piggybacking' was just sign up to tge site. A crude solution with a central point of failure but a start?

    You can just sing up on ripplepay (or villages.cc) and transfer there existing debts if that's what you're asking.

    OT will implement ripple at some point. Will be still centralized but you won't have to trust the server (a great improvement).

    Decentralized ripple could be implemented with a chain but not all the transactions would be instant. The current protocol draft doesn't relies on a blockchain:

    http://ripple-project.org/Protocol/Protocol?from=Protocol.Index
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    January 03, 2012, 02:43:13 PM
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    Quote from: jago25_98 on January 03, 2012, 01:46:46 AM
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    I think you're giving too much emphasis on it. It's not that of a big deal since it's not escrowed. In the end this is just a desktop client to do what OTC or bitmarket.eu are already doing.

    Both of those are centralised.

    The trades don't pass through a central link, they are person-to-person. So what that the system is centralized? It's just a database of orders after all. If bitmarket.eu or bitcoin-otc get shut down, all they need to do is to open their source and you'll see others popping up. Like when a torrent tracker is shut down.

    I really don't see the single fact of distributing this order database as a big deal.

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    January 15, 2012, 02:04:31 AM
    Last edit: February 03, 2012, 12:18:18 AM by Crack222
     #134
    Hey after a lot of research  i just found a TOR version of Dark Exchange !

    The problem is I can make it work perfectly on windows xp but on my windows 7 it just close itself! Can someone help me?

    I'm not sure if i'm allowed to post it here since i'm new but anyway i've done a virus scan before you can check it =>HERE<=, the download link for TOR darkexchange is http://www.mediafire.com/?r3dnzwv4adld0jn


    Pls tell me how to make it work on win7, even with compatibility mode I can't manage to get it work. Whats weird is on my vmware win xp it works perfectly !

    PS : of course it only shows auctions from the TOR network not I2P so for the moment theres not much out there

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    January 15, 2012, 04:55:26 AM
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    Darkbay or TorrentMarket, p2p market is a dream come true.

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    January 21, 2012, 05:49:02 AM
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    Following. Any updates on the operational status?
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    January 23, 2012, 03:48:38 PM
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    Just wanted a chance to think out loud here... Instead of using an application, wouldn't creating a distributed website (on something like freenet) be much better?
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    February 03, 2012, 12:20:06 AM
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    Its kind of operationnal.. At least on the TOR network there is about 5 6 orders operationnal in average when you connect, the main problem being your orders not showing if you're offline.

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    February 07, 2012, 04:17:41 PM
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    Following.
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    February 10, 2012, 06:22:51 AM
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    Interesting thread about USDcoins earlier. Basically a crypto coin pegged to the dollar right?
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