They've been saying 18 months for 2 years now. I hope it comes soon. We need lower fees and faster transactions.

I agree that the company dont implement this lightning metwork to help their user just throw it to garbage bag.
This LN is very helpfull to make the crypto as currency survive. As we know, cypto is just as investment not currency

Of course that it will be a huge thing, and a lot of people are going to be scared of that because they are not going to understand how does it works.

But for me, it is a huge step to make it grow much more than what it is right now.

Let's see how it goes, maybe in a few months, it will get implemented on the mainnet.

I would be utterly surprised if the BCash folks, that is Jihan and his team of minions, actually went for LN. Really, one of the reasons for the creation of BCash was disagreement over SegWit activation with the Jihan party strongly opposing it. Well, at least that's what we are made to believe. But LN requires SegWit to function properly if I'm not mistaken, and implementing LN now will only prove that they are just a bunch of filthy and greedy hypocrites.

But we kinda already know that.

i don't understand LN completely, i am not denying that.
but also i did not say you open/close channels "constantly"! but at some point you need to go in and out like moving funds from your wallet into your LN wallet for the first time. or getting them out to cold storage for the good security after you were done. or charging your LN wallet when you ran out of funds like spending it on buying coffee every day.
and we are not just talking about 1 person, it is about (hopefully) millions of people using bitcoin and wanting to make transactions on-chain and also to go in and out of LN.

Bcash devs are not even capable of fixing their own shit.
https://twitter.com/verretor/status/952901265402589184

Expecting them to implement LN without segwit is not realistic. Even the Master Shill Roger can't decide if its a good thing or not. One day he says its a centralized hub network, the other day he says they don't need segwit to implement LN.

They are clueless noobs who can say anything to pump their altcoin.

There are facts;

1-They don't have the manpower to implement LN without segwit. Imagine the possible fuckups if they intended to do so.
2-They won't implement segwit because segwit breaks Bitmain's patented software ASICBOOST. So they won't be able to copy LN to bcash.
3-They are just talk. No action. They won't bother with coding their own shit. If they are able to steal it, they will. In this case, they won't be able to.

Check the developer activity on both projects:
https://github.com/Bitcoin-ABC/bitcoin-abc
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin

1. Yes it's real most of us here are just waiting for the implementation of the lighting network due to high fees.
2. We don't have any idea(s) when or what day will the LN  be here.
3. It depends with you if you want to use the Lightning Network same as the segwit transactions work.

OK that all sound well and convincing. But I have one doubt that I was trying to discuss in other threads and I really got no opinion on it. I have read somewhere that when you open a Lightning channel and when you close it, you have to pay regular fees, so LN really would NOT make the fees go away, at least when you engage with a given service provider only once or twice.

Can you please tell me your opinion on that?

Also, regarding LN availability, the same news (i.e. it is ALMOST released) has been there for at least 2 months. So what is your expectation in terms of a set date?

Why should we trust you, what are your credentials, really? Kidding aside, everyone who won't be quite satisfied with LN can still use the good old onchain transactions with no LN involved. So your point is effectively meaningless, null and void. These options (I refer to onchain and offchain transactions here) will necessarily make the fees lower. Any way you look at it, ordinary people will have to pay less even if LN hubs will start to charge a fee in the future. In other words, don't make it look like LN is evil because it is not.