This is the original thread announcing TBF not the ones you posted:
https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/113400.820Their are many arguments for and against it and yes I'm in the thread giving Charlie a bunch of crap about the elitist organization. He and others were able to change my mind about it and now I'm a supporter.
OP, you make it sound dirty that someone wants to make money with Bitcoin. You do realize that this is a finance/cryptography forum, right? If business people don't make money Bitcoin dies. Making money is the reason so many people mine and profit is the reason they do it. Troll harder.