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1337toolz

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 15, 2018, 03:57:18 PM
Last edit: March 15, 2018, 04:59:19 PM by 1337toolz

#21

Quote from: Branko on March 15, 2018, 12:09:40 PM

That one is rev.2

Why do you think so? Just because of there is no additional power connector?

Seems, the both revisions have no the connector:
rev.1.0:
https://static.gigabyte.com/Product/3/6333/2017062918234898_m.png

rev.2.0:
https://static.gigabyte.com/Product/3/6478/2017110611543396_m.png

Branko (OP)

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 15, 2018, 05:17:38 PM
Last edit: March 15, 2018, 05:27:43 PM by Branko

#22

This is rev 1.0

Btw, if by "blockchain drivers" you mean ones from 23. august 2017, try latest adrenaline instead,

as original old blockchain driveers are known to draw more power

1337toolz

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 15, 2018, 06:05:44 PM
Last edit: March 15, 2018, 06:18:41 PM by 1337toolz

#23

Quote from: Branko on March 15, 2018, 05:17:38 PM

Btw, if by "blockchain drivers" you mean ones from 23. august 2017, try latest adrenaline instead,

as original old blockchain driveers are known to draw more power

I meant those drivers (Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition Beta for Blockchain Compute Driver Version 17.30.1029 (Windows Driver Store Version 22.19.659.0).

I have tried the Adrenalin Edition drivers a couple of times. But each time I got lower hashrate than with the blockchain drivers. Perhaps, I should try once again. Thank you for the hint.

Branko (OP)

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 15, 2018, 06:15:33 PM

#24

Quote from: 1337toolz on March 15, 2018, 06:05:44 PM

Quote from: Branko on March 15, 2018, 05:17:38 PM

Btw, if by "blockchain drivers" you mean ones from 23. august 2017, try latest adrenaline instead,

as original old blockchain driveers are known to draw more power

I meant that drivers (Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition Beta for Blockchain Compute Driver Version 17.30.1029 (Windows Driver Store Version 22.19.659.0).

I have tried the Adrenalin Edition drivers a couple of times. But each time I got lower hashrate than with the blockchain drivers. Perhaps, I should try once again. Thank you for the hint.

Maybe you didn't do this?

https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/DH-024.aspx

1337toolz

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 15, 2018, 06:27:28 PM

#25

Quote from: Branko on March 15, 2018, 06:15:33 PM

Maybe you didn't do this?

Of course I did Wink

However hashrate was ~1Mh/s worse than with the drivers I use.
Anyway, seems, it's time to try once again.

Btw, what exact version are you using? The most recent one (18.3.2) or...?

skablast

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 15, 2018, 07:36:58 PM

#26

Ok, I need some suggestion, and I thought that someone here may help me.

I purchased an used XFX 460 2 gb ( because I want to learn to make custom strap for cryptonight...) and I got it very cheap.

I tested "stock", and was giving 11 Mh on ubiq and 320 on Cryptonight

Then I saved the bios, baffin.rom, and I open it with Polaris and used the one click function to move the strap from lower speed to the higher ones. Memory is Hynix and Elpida

I flash the bios, windows is ok and it hang in Claymore. And it hang in Xmr stack, GGS,Phoneix, and any mining sw I can think of.

I flash his own bios back and it hang in Claymore. And it hang in Xmr stack, GGS,Phoneix, and any mining sw I can think of.

Thats the first time it happened to me. I give a look on the internet and there is all this story about unlocking the shaders and so on, and a lot of people unable to flash the bios.
Got me thinking, I remove the fan , and there are 4 chip from Elpida ELPIDA/EDW4032BABG-70-F, that, according to the datasheet are 4 GB GDDR . Just to confirm I removed a 550 4 gb Asus, and it the same "configuration" but the chip are from micron.

So, What I have is probably a 4gb, cutted somehow in the bios to 2 gb.
In the process of copying the bios and restoring it something changed and now isn't working as 2 GB, even if its recognized as 2 gb from the miners

Is this possible or there is an easier solution to what happened ?

Its "safe" to try to install a stock bios of a 460 4GB on it ?

Branko (OP)

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 15, 2018, 08:37:15 PM

#27

Quote from: skablast on March 15, 2018, 07:36:58 PM

Thats the first time it happened to me. I give a look on the internet and there is all this story about unlocking the shaders and so on, and a lot of people unable to flash the bios.
Got me thinking, I remove the fan , and there are 4 chip from Elpida ELPIDA/EDW4032BABG-70-F, that, according to the datasheet are 4 GB GDDR . Just to confirm I removed a 550 4 gb Asus, and it the same "configuration" but the chip are from micron.

So, What I have is probably a 4gb, cutted somehow in the bios to 2 gb.
In the process of copying the bios and restoring it something changed and now isn't working as 2 GB, even if its recognized as 2 gb from the miners

Is this possible or there is an easier solution to what happened ?

Its "safe" to try to install a stock bios of a 460 4GB on it ?

They're 4 gigaBITS, 4x4 gigabits = 16 gigabits = 2 gigabytes

hipi.hop

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 15, 2018, 11:47:16 PM

#28

Thank you! In a couple of days i will come new 2 cards and try to update them immediately this BIOS. Hopefully this will increase productivity.

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1337toolz

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 16, 2018, 01:46:12 PM
Last edit: March 16, 2018, 02:14:00 PM by 1337toolz

#29

I've just tried the latest drivers (18.3.2) from amd...

Ok, it was just a waste of time. Completely.

1. AB doesn't work properly with these drivers
2. The 'Compute Workloads' can't be switched on for some of my GPUs for some reason
3. The 'Radeon Settings' software is f'cking sloooooow and extremely f'cking inconvenient (I was very close to smashing my laptop, waiting while the next UI screen is being opened after a button is clicked)
4. I've not managed to get acceptable hashrates
5. Rolled back to the blockchain edition drivers

Quote from: Branko on March 15, 2018, 05:17:38 PM

original old blockchain driveers are known to draw more power

Seems, power consumption is approximately the same for the both.

Branko, what exact version of the drivers do you use, please?

BSAlex

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 16, 2018, 07:57:46 PM

#30

Hi, Branko!
I have RX 560 Gaming OC 4G card and want to try how much better you settings will hash.
But when I try to flash I got an error

=== Flashing card 2 ===
Old SSID: 22FF
New SSID: 22ED
SSID mismatched

ERROR: 0FL01

Does it mean that you bios is incompatible?

Sorry if it is a stupid question, I do not have much experience with replacing bios with different one, up to now I have was modifying original bioses only.

Branko (OP)

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 16, 2018, 08:41:11 PM

#31

Quote from: 1337toolz on March 16, 2018, 01:46:12 PM

Quote from: Branko on March 15, 2018, 05:17:38 PM

original old blockchain driveers are known to draw more power

Seems, power consumption is approximately the same for the both.

Branko, what exact version of the drivers do you use, please?

Always latest, only problem from your list that I have is that wattman is slow sometimes...AB
often doesn't work, but I stopped using it long ago because of that

Quote from: BSAlex on March 16, 2018, 07:57:46 PM

There are at least two versions of that card (rev 1 and rev 2, my bios is for rev 1)...quite possible there are new revisions with less shaders, too

1337toolz

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 16, 2018, 09:19:49 PM

#32

Quote from: 1337toolz on March 14, 2018, 11:14:13 PM

Hi Branko,

I've tested the strap on 2 GPUs:
1. Gigabyte GV-RX560OC-4GD - ETH 15.6MHz@2125 and hang@2150
2. MSI RX560 AERO ITX 4G OC - works unstable even at 1950MHz

I've just tested one more GPU:
Adapter 2 (BN=04, DN=00, FN=00, PCIID=00001002, SSID=000022FF) Asic Family : Polaris11 Flash Type : GD25Q41B (512 KB) Product Name is : GV-RX560GAMING OC-4GD/FW0/06F3 Bios Config File: RX560GO4.FW0 Bios P/N : P/N Not Available Bios Version : 015.050.002.001.000000 Bios Date is : 01/07/18 02:14

The result is the same as for the msi aero - works unstable even at 1950MHz

Branko (OP)

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 16, 2018, 09:48:08 PM

#33

Quote from: 1337toolz on March 16, 2018, 09:19:49 PM

Quote from: 1337toolz on March 14, 2018, 11:14:13 PM

Hi Branko,

I've tested the strap on 2 GPUs:
1. Gigabyte GV-RX560OC-4GD - ETH 15.6MHz@2125 and hang@2150
2. MSI RX560 AERO ITX 4G OC - works unstable even at 1950MHz

Interesting...sounds like problem I have with Hynix version of my Gigabytes...it actually uses 1500MHz
memory and OCs about 300MHz lower than micron...maybe they started using same trick with micron too

1337toolz

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 17, 2018, 09:18:49 AM

#34

Quote from: Branko on March 16, 2018, 09:48:08 PM

I could try other straps if you have some.

Branko (OP)

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 17, 2018, 09:38:54 AM

#35

Quote from: 1337toolz on March 17, 2018, 09:18:49 AM

Quote from: Branko on March 16, 2018, 09:48:08 PM

I could try other straps if you have some.

It would be great if you could take picture of memory chips, so we can check what frequency
they're rated for...from BIOS, I only see that they use mt51j256m32 revision B, with slightly different
timings than revision A

1337toolz

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 17, 2018, 10:22:40 AM
Last edit: March 17, 2018, 11:19:42 AM by 1337toolz

#36

Quote from: Branko on March 17, 2018, 09:38:54 AM

Quote from: 1337toolz on March 17, 2018, 09:18:49 AM

Quote from: Branko on March 16, 2018, 09:48:08 PM

I could try other straps if you have some.

The chips on the GV-RX560GAMING OC-4GD/FW0/06F3 are marked as 7WB77 D9VVR.
MSI RX560 AERO ITX 4G OC - 7WB77 D9VVR
Gigabyte GV-RX560OC-4GD - 7SA47 D9TRZ

That's the answer why the msi aero and gigabyte gaming behaves in a similar way - they use the same memory chip.

D9VVR is MT51J256M32HF-80:B

BSAlex

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 17, 2018, 11:20:58 AM
Last edit: March 17, 2018, 11:32:31 AM by BSAlex

#37

Quote from: 1337toolz on March 16, 2018, 09:19:49 PM

Quote from: 1337toolz on March 14, 2018, 11:14:13 PM

Hi Branko,

I've tested the strap on 2 GPUs:
1. Gigabyte GV-RX560OC-4GD - ETH 15.6MHz@2125 and hang@2150
2. MSI RX560 AERO ITX 4G OC - works unstable even at 1950MHz

@1377toolz Do you use whole bios provided by Branko or straps only?
What core freq do you use? I have problems with stability with the card until I lower core to 1100 and undervolt it to 775, after that I've got memory to 2100 (with PBE timings, not Branko)

1337toolz

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 17, 2018, 11:26:26 AM

#38

Quote from: BSAlex on March 17, 2018, 11:20:58 AM

@1377tools Do you use whole bios provided by Branko or straps only?

I apply the same (or almost the same) mods to original GPU's bios.

Branko (OP)

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 17, 2018, 11:38:03 AM

#39

Quote from: 1337toolz on March 17, 2018, 10:22:40 AM

Now that is interesting...your ordinary GB seems to have 1500MHz chips, so no wonder it doesn't work good,
but these with D9VVR if that's indeed MT51J256M32HF-80:B should work even better than my cards, as
that indicate 2000MHz chips...now you got me curious enough to go buy one, but lucky as I am,
I'll probably get one with 1500MHz Hynix

1337toolz

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Re: Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 4G (rev. 1.0) 16.3MH/s bios

March 17, 2018, 11:40:38 AM

#40

"-80" means the highest possible data rate in the series - 8.0 Gb/s.
So GPUs with such memory should give a good hash rate. Seems, we just need a strap with proper timings. Wink

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