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The thing is all those things you mentioned were promised in the original deal that customers payed for. It would be a little like paying an extra 5k to have leather seats in your car, then you go to take delivery and the seats are cloth, and the sales guy tries to tell you how cloth is better cause you won't burn yourself on a hot day (but of course won't give back the 5 grand).
You like to ask questions, so here is one for you. Why do you think this is going to turn out well? It is obvious to anyone that doesn't have stake in this company that they will not be completed on schedule. And even if it is, do you really think they are going to send it to you? They are very open about also building a cloud mining operation. Do you really think they are going to give you machines first and then themselves? Given that they have no contractual delivery date with you can deliver whenever they feel like it, or not at all?
It isn't like this company came along and said they know how preorders have gone in the past and they wanted to do it different, and then did things different. This preorder has gone so far exactly like every other proerder ever, and we all know how those turned out for customers. So my question to you is, given that they have done things exactly the same, why do you think this will somehow turn out different for customers?
Let me try to answer your questions as well as involve some of your replies in the threads that followed.
I'm not sure I follow your analogy. We have went from a 5Mh/s miner to 50Mh/s miner. A few extras were pulled, which would be analogous to bells and whistles in a car, and replaced with a lot more H.P.
Where did I say this is going to turn out well (lately). Maybe in the beginning of the whole thing. I've clearly stated multiple times that I am concerned about what is to come. Have you been reading the thread lately? What I have stated lately is to back off the personal attacks and lets just stick to the facts. It is much more reasonable to read what Retro writes (and admirably spent time collecting, thinking up ,etc.) without all the personal attacks on Fiaz. I'm not saying to not say someone lied, but when you mix facts with subjective derogatory name calling, it hurts the state of the online community here. It serves to disenchant and break down. IT becomes like a group mentality and everyone is pulled down to another level. Let the facts speak to that.
Regarding do I think they will send it to me and not mine. I most certainly do. I'm not sure if you are projecting what you would do, but when a business tells me they are not going to use my device before shipping it AND that they are not getting in the mining industry, I take that at face value. Now, if there were lots of lies along the way, I will re-asses, but thus far the question is "Will they deliver on time." and you are stating that due to greed, they will mine. How could you possibly know, especially when they most clearly stated they are not getting involved with mining on numerous occasions. Again, have you been reading the thread and their updates? Remember that Dexcel is doing the chip work out of India, they are a large company and they risk a lot should they get involved with something that seems illegal to me. Alpha Tech is more the brains of the operation in England. Units will ship from India. Dexcel would have to be actively involved in this operation and if anything like what you are suggesting were to happen, I would hope we could attack it legally. If not, then there is no sense in being involved in the future. Sort of like crowd-funding with little to no rewards.
By doing things exactly the same, I think you are confusing corruptness with things (maybe) beyond their control. This is the unknown. I agree with Retro and Vesper about a lot of the writing on the wall, but we still have 4 weeks and there is not need to pay right now, not for 2 weeks after the payment processor is up. And if they don't have something good to show me at that time, I probably don't pay and seek to remedy the "deposit situation" which seems not to follow the law. I can't at this point in time say that we are not getting our miners.
In your reply to diego2000 you state "Put another way, say YOU had a couple hundred 250Mh/s miners right now. Would you really head down to Fed Ex tomorrow and ship them off, or would you wait a while, make some money, and THEN sell them? All due respect, I think it is very naive to think they would leave all that money on the table." This sounds like something you would do and you are projecting it onto others. I would ship them off because I honor my word. Life is not about making as much money as I can. We reap what we sow. I'm not sure how you can judge AT when you are basically saying you would do something that you are accusing them of, because, well, it is the "natural" thing to do.
Maybe they are getting into this business to use it as a funder for mining, but that is disingenuous and me myself would not do that. If I wanted to get into mining and to sell units I would make that point clear, at least when the time arose. I think KNC actually did something like this (got into mining without explicitly saying so at first). Your posts seem really to just focus on corrupt behavior, and I'm not saying that isn't happening, but I am not going to assume the worst when they have said otherwise regarding mining themselves. But yes, a lot of questions need answering and I hope Retro can collect the good ones and we can post it over on their forum.
This thread has gone from fact collections, to name calling and now assumptions on borderline illegal activity. I won't take part in that. That may be the case, but I am not going to get pulled into darkness and projections and fear. However, I will not be ignorant considering all that has transpired, but as I said before, I don't think we are exactly behind schedule though we are in a critical spot (and we need those before mentioned questions answered to know - and yes, it doesn't look great.). A powerful and factual update (with physical evidence) is what is needed. Let's see what happens the next few days and weeks. We don't really have a choice in the matter and perhaps things change. If I'm wrong so be it, but through this, as tough as it may get I will be a human being the best that I can.
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