It lets you immediately pay the other party when you create the channel instead of creating the channel and then updating the commitment immediately afterwards to pay the other person.

You would have to open as many channels as possible with every other node on the network. Autopilot won't do this for you.

Autopilot does not just open as many channels as possible. It isn't designed for that. Autopilot will not magically make you the biggest node on the network, nor will it open tens or even hundreds of channels for you.

Use the channel opening commands and open then manually.

Hello jrian. Good thread. I am waiting for some hardware to arrive to start working on an LN node myself. Saw your post history and it seems like you will be a good source for information and help, in case i need any.

So I am doing you a solid for the amount of sMerit I had to spare. Remember this when i ask for your help..LOL.. Thanks in advance.

Also, would you care to explain the reason behind contemplating about becoming the biggest LN node. Wouldn't that be a lot of spare BTC plus you'd need to have an equal amount of parties interested to open a channel with you too (with some balance committed from the other side).

Is that even possible until you are, say, an exchange or a major seller?

maybe I  ask wrong question.

according to this tutorial https://dev.lightning.community/tutorial/01-lncli/
If I open channel from Alice to Bob - Alice can pay to Bob, right?
But how can I force Bob to put some satoshi in this channel? So Bob can pay back to Alice?

for example:


now we have channel from Alice to Bob. But I want Bob to pay Alice invoice.


so, question is - how to force Bob to put some money into channel?

be #craeful with , it allows instant payment during channel creation, you are _paying_ them when you do this, whether intended or not, so basically don't do it unless there is some agreement with the other party. What you want to use mainly is , this funds your side of the channel, available to you whenever you want to close out (generally don't close channels unless you really need onchchain funds)

For now, channel creation is only "1 sided" where people can fund their side of a new channel with others, but later it will be possible for 2 nodes to simultaneously fund their own side of the same channel _during creation_.

One of the most exciting things I'm looking forward to is AMP (atomic multi-path) payments, which allow a single atomic payment to be split up among multiple routes, and summed back on the destination, this is a major feature that will take advantage of smaller channels and prevent the need for massive channels (centralization pressure). Lots of cool stuff coming for LN.

dual funded channels  - exactly what i'm asking about! thanks! i'll follow this pull.

about push_msat, yes, better not to use it, if you dont want just give you money as a gift to some node.

next questions:

1. is there any "lightweight"  Bitcoin client I can use for Lightning?

I know about Neutrino https://github.com/lightninglabs/neutrino, but they dont recommend use their client in mainnet

2. How can I move my Lightning Node to another server/ip address? How can I save all channels and peers after move?

will Lightning end Mining?

I was going to open a new thread for this but I believe it would be better if I share it in this thread.

https://medium.com/@thecryptoconomy/dont-count-your-fud-before-the-lightning-strikes-15-claims-against-lightning-answered-9671d4a663a9


It's long and I have not read all of it yet to be honest. But it is good to have it bookmarked and ready to use as a reference against the LN doubters.