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how can bitcoin have a good impression if there are people like this!??

April 10, 2018, 05:12:48 AM

Filipino couple amasses at least P900M in alleged Bitcoin scam

MANILA, Philippines Police have nabbed a couple promising easy wealth through popular cryptocurrency Bitcoin, Philippine National Police (PNP) chief Director General Ronald dela Rosa announced on Tuesday, April 10.

Arnel and Leonady Ordonio were nabbed by PNP Criminal Investigation and Detection Group (CIDG) operatives, the police division in charge of high-stakes and high-profile crimes.

According to Dela Rosa, the couple has scammed more than 50 unknowing investors, amassing wealth worth P900 million* in "raw capital." This means the amount of money promised to be returned is not yet included in the computation. Rappler.com

click the link for more info https://www.rappler.com/nation/199915-filipino-couple-amasses-millions-bitcoin-scam
if there are people who scam with bitcoin, The 1st impression of investors here in the philppines will look at bitcoin as scam. -_-

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April 10, 2018, 05:20:02 AM

You cannot judge a whole community on the actions of a few criminals <individuals> like this. Every technology or commodity that are linked to some sort of monetary value, will at one stage be used by a small group of individuals to commit crime. The few rotten apples should just be discarded and the good apples should be used in the making of the Apple juice. ^smile^

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April 10, 2018, 05:59:01 AM

Ohwell. There's always going to be greedy people running investment scams masquerading as some legit investment and there's always going to be Darwin's award-winning delusional people believing and investing in these kinds of things. Another bad publicity for bitcoin I guess.

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April 10, 2018, 06:10:42 AM

currently there are many cases involving the name of bitcoin even in my country has reached approximately 7 or 5 cases. and things like this are bad for all bitcoin communities because most of the negative things about bitcoin have an effect on the price. let's keep the good name of bitcoin the way we keep those bitcoin users around us, let's do it for the good of us all.

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April 10, 2018, 06:11:23 AM

Quote from: brylle34 on April 10, 2018, 05:12:48 AM

I thought that cryptocurrency trading and investing is banned in the Philippines.
Well,I guess thats why we need all ICOs and crypto trading platfoms to comply with more regulations and
reveal more information about their owners and devs.This case is just a random HYIP/ponzi scheme.They could easily scam people,promising insane profits from any other altcoin,but I guess that there`s still some hype around bitcoin.People believe that they could make huge profits overhight from btc,in reality,it`s not that easy anymore.

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April 10, 2018, 06:30:03 AM

Quote from: brylle34 on April 10, 2018, 05:12:48 AM

thanks for the information, this is an accident for bitcoin, and in the end, the public will judge bad bitcoin. public and investors will not be interested in bitcoin, and bitcoin gets red trust from investors, so bitcoin spreading will drop drastically, and bitcoin will be dying.

and it will be difficult to rise again.

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April 10, 2018, 06:31:39 AM

Quote from: Kakmakr on April 10, 2018, 05:20:02 AM

yes exactly the problem is because the the world of crypto (BITCOIN) is just starting in the country of the Philippines, its not a good start if you will see this kind of things, on the headlines of news. but we cannot control that there are some people scammers who are taking advantage to newbies that wants to earn profit. its just sad because we want people to invest on Bitcoin so that the value will rise, its not just small money its almost 18,890,000 USD, that's why it has a big impact for investors

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April 10, 2018, 06:37:57 AM

Quote from: brylle34 on April 10, 2018, 05:12:48 AM

Well, this will be the one of many reason why some countries are not yet legalized and totally banned crypto. Because of the people that so insensitive, they never meant what will be the effect of any bad or wrong things they be done to others but I thought this issue are not only in the Philippines happened, there also some countries has the same issue. It really means that no matter where we are there is such a people like them that surrounds us so I think the best solution for this is we need to make much more strictly regulations in crypto world therefore it will lessen the people that are scammers.

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April 10, 2018, 06:42:50 AM

Quote from: davis196 on April 10, 2018, 06:11:23 AM

Quote from: brylle34 on April 10, 2018, 05:12:48 AM

Bitcoin is not banned on the country of the Philippines in fact there are applications that uses bitcoin to pay bills buy gaming credits, send cash, money transfer etc. but there are rumors that when you connect your app (bitcoin app) to encash money through bank accounts, the bank accounts you are using will be banned without prior notice they will just say that they will close your accounts if you are using it with bitcoin or any related crypto currency. But there are banks that you can use to get fiat from bitcoin

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April 10, 2018, 06:44:46 AM

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Quote from: zolfa on April 10, 2018, 06:30:03 AM

The above incident is nothing to do with bitcoins because they were running a fraud scheme but they just choose the cryptos as a payment option because of easy and anonymous transactions. Even those guys ask for other means of payment also some people might have invested in these HYIP or multi-layer schemes. Nowadays everyone wants easy and fast money but if they get scammed then blame it on a technology instead blaming themselves for not thinking enough to make a vice decision.

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April 10, 2018, 06:44:50 AM

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 10, 2018, 05:20:02 AM

I agree, this criminals becomes successful in their evil schemes because there are also people who are not vigilant or careful enough to think over their investments. It is our duty to be careful of our hard earned money and the first sign of something fishy or unusual we must report to authorities asap. The success or the failure of our investments relies 80% in the hands of the investor. If they have been scammed then it means they want easy money the reason that they lost the 100% control over their financial endeavors.

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April 10, 2018, 06:47:52 AM

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Because of that people who does not understand bitcoin will just simply say bitcoin is a scam do not invest in bitcoin. I have heard many people saying like that, and I just smiled since I know they dont understand what bitcoin really is. Even the news reporters are also have less knowledge about bitcoin and would also say do not invest in bitcoin, invest in security's and stocks instead.

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April 10, 2018, 06:48:41 AM

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Quote from: Cofee.BLUE on April 10, 2018, 06:37:57 AM

Quote from: brylle34 on April 10, 2018, 05:12:48 AM

This news is quite bad for bitcoin community but that is actually beyond our control wherein there are people scamming other people for their own interest. Just hoping this kind news could not impact the growth in bitcoin in the coming weeks wherein btc is already on dip.

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April 10, 2018, 06:56:14 AM

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Scammers have been around long before Bitcoin. There were millions of scams before bitcoin came along so we can't blame it for this.
In this scam bitcoin was used because of its very useful features like anonymity and simplicity for transactions.
If people throw money at someone promising them profit its they own problem really.

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April 10, 2018, 07:03:18 AM

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OP, I fear for the Bitcoin holders in your country. I believe your government might be quick to jump on the news and start banning all cryptocurrencies and make them illegal. I heard your president is a malevolent, crazy maniac who likes to get poor and oppressed people killed for doing the lightest of drug offenses.

My suggestion for things you should buy with your Bitcoin. A bullet proof vest and life insurance. Hahaha.

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April 10, 2018, 07:04:00 AM
Last edit: April 10, 2018, 02:05:10 PM by leonair

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There are more scams happened and still happening until this day because these scammers are riding the fame of Bitcoin and taking advantage those people that are gullible enough to believe in this kind of easy rich schemes.

Being skeptical to new things are a natural reaction of every individual so you can't blame those people who doesn't believe or having hard time to trust the potential of Bitcoin itself but guess what they tend to believe in this kind of things.

We all once ignorant in different things though so for me it's just a matter of time before mass adoption will go through in the Cyptocurrency scene but with this kind of issue will be surely affect the name of Bitcoin but for only just a short period of time because the truth will surely prevails so we have nothing to worry about.

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April 10, 2018, 07:08:03 AM

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Quote from: brylle34 on April 10, 2018, 05:12:48 AM

With the popularity of Bitcoin, people with bad intentions will take advantage of it just like what happened here in the Philippines. Filipinos tend to be swayed easily if they are promised for easy money. It is also a factor that those whoe were victimized were not familiar how Bitcoin works.

The only good side of this is that people will be more vigilant in investing in Bitcoin and they'd do more research about it.

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April 10, 2018, 07:35:23 AM

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There are always people who want to deceive. Fraud can manifest itself in any project, even the most successful and seemingly safe. It's not in Bitcoin as a crypto-currency project, but in a human nature. It is necessary to distinguish these things, so as not to abandon the potentially promising projects because of the fear of getting on the scammers. You need to take a justified risk and connect your knowledge and skills so as not to run into deceivers.

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April 10, 2018, 10:42:09 AM

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on April 10, 2018, 07:03:18 AM

If your not from the country of the Philippines you will not understand what is the President aims to do, i think government will not ban cryptocurrencies because they are studying bitcoin because it may help overseas Filipino workers to get their money easily. what the Presidents wants to do is to wipe all out the illegal drugs, its not hard because there are people that also have a high status in the government are the one's who are drug protectors. We know that in this world anything is possible with money that's what he is trying stop. we don't know if the one who is killing is the drug sindicates also they can pay some policeman to kill their people for them to not to talk, we can't just judge the President or anyone without any valid reasons.

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April 10, 2018, 11:03:40 AM

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Quote from: brylle34 on April 10, 2018, 05:12:48 AM

if there are people who scam with bitcoin, The 1st impression of investors here in the philppines will look at bitcoin as scam. -_-

If that is the case then people's first impression into fiat should have been bad. IMO there are many scammers everywhere using fiat, so don't think that scams like this only happens with bitcoin and crypto. The 1st impression of investors shouldn't be affected by this incident.

Quote from: Wind_FURY on April 10, 2018, 07:03:18 AM

OP, I fear for the Bitcoin holders in your country. I believe your government might be quick to jump on the news and start banning all cryptocurrencies and make them illegal.

Do not fear for bitcoin holders in Philippines since as far as I know, the Philippine government already took a step to legalize bitcoin way back in January. According to coindesk, Philippines SEC plans to craft rules intended to regulate crypto news and ICO's. Why would government agencies issue regulation rules if they will ban it?
Sources:
https://www.coindesk.com/philippines-sec-plans-to-regulate-cryptocurrency-trading-icos/
https://news.bitcoin.com/philippines-move-in-direction-to-legalize-bitcoin-as-a-security/

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