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    • DdmrDdmr (OP)
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    April 17, 2018, 03:30:34 PM
    Last edit: April 19, 2018, 07:16:03 PM by DdmrDdmr
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    Edit 19/04/2018:

    TheQuin asked if I could breakdown the data further, to allow us to see even deeper into how each one of us is in relation to next rank's objectives. Since both Activity and Merit are required, graphs need to consider both variables.

    I've appended the charts to the original post, at the end of this post (section number 5).

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    This past weekend, I managed to reach a goal I had set out to surpass, which is that of reaching the 100 Merit barrier ( Smiley) in a reasonable time, if possible before my activity caught up with the merit counter. I was fortunate enough to reach it just after two and a half months. Not bad, but certainly not effortless, and it does come at a cost in personal time.
    I thought I’d cool down a bit now, since my initial goal was reached, but then I started to see questions asked throughout the forum that I could try to help resolve. The latest that got me going was one related to rank scaling and merit. It got me wondering just how many people were on their way to rank up, but had not been able to do so yet due to either a lack of merit or activity.

    I’m not saying that the resulting numbers are good or bad, since that depends on overall forum objectives that consider quality of posts and content, spam reduction and reduction of account farming as the core aims, and have as a side effect a deceleration of ranking up. Besides, these numbers should ideally be compared to past data so see impact on ranking evolution.

    To cut a long story short, here are my findings:

    1. Introduction:

    The universe of analysis is that of users that have received at least 1 Smerit up to the 13/04/2018 (latest merit.txt file). I've considered the natural ranks only, and amongst those, the ones that require Merit.
    Any user that has not received sMerit I have not considered, basically because I'd take a trillion days to get all their data. If you come to think of it, non-sMerited users have not managed (yet) to move a single step towards ranking up, so they have a long road ahead and are not in the Rank pipeline, at least not from a minimal dynamic point of view.



    From the summary, which is broken-down further down, we can see that:

    * 48,78% of users are in need of sMerit to rank up to the next level (since the Activity level for the next level has been reached).
    * 1,94%   of users have reached the next level in terms of Merit, but not Activity. This small select group need only post enough days to rank up.
    * 48,15% of users need both Merit and Activity to rank up.
    * 1,12% are what I think, are being considered for legendary as we'll see below.

    So in summary, nearly half of the users are ready to rank up but need to work on getting Merit. Therefore Merit takes it's toll, but it's there for a reason and those are the rules of the game now. Figure is rather high though objectively ...


    2. Breakdown by Rank:

    Here's the breakdown by Rank. Each graph shows how many users ar waiting to rank up to the next level, and the motive.

    In the Heros to Legendary chart, I've created a category called "0. Being considered for Legendary". It represent those that have already got at least 1.000 Merit and at least 775 Activity (the range is formally 775-1030, but I'm considering the minimum for this excercise). The specific change of rank does not seem automatic, so I guess they have to be veted one by one.
    Heros I think started off with a 500 Merit airdrop. Nevertheless, there are quite a few that seem to have received 1.000 merit, probably because they are virtual Legends and are probably in consideration.

    I've created an overall category called "3. Soon may rank up to xxxxxxx" where xxxxx is the goal Rank. This category includes those users that are within 20% of the Merit requirement and at the same time, within 20% of the Activity requirement. That leaves "4. Not enough activity nor Merit to rank up to xxxxxxxx" for those outside the 20% window on both accounts.
     














    3. Who has got enough merit, but lacks activity?:

    These are on the fast track to ranking up. I've ordered the list by Rank and then by MeritPosts.

    There are some strange cases though if you study the profiles. I looked through the Member segment one by one:

    * pafu -> Being a Member, started off with a 500 Merit airdrop instead of 10 (could be a bought account, but I thought there were no demotions..). -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25731
    * Technor -> Being a Member, started off with a 100 Merit airdrop instead of 10. ->https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1134109
    * Husna QA -> Looks Ok. -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1827294
    * kaar -> Looks Ok. -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1439008
    * doudou1110 -> Looks weird -> 100 sMerits in only 5 small posts. -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1206752
    * 55Domains -> Being a Member, started off with a 100 Merit airdrop instead of 10. -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=945408
    * tam31 -> Being a Member, started off with a 100 Merit airdrop instead of 10. -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1138263
    * DdmrDdmr -> Looks Ok ( Wink) -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1582324
    * bitmover -> Looks Ok. -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1554927
    * asche -> Weird: Nearly all Merit comes from Oscar2000 in ANN threads. -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1580039

    Note: sorry about tabulation, can't seem to master it properly on this forum...

    Code:
    rank        name       merit activity posts ratioMeritToPost url
    Sr. Member GameKyuubi 588 241 241 2.44 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26945
    Sr. Member saulzaents 501 434 872 0.57 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=944905
    Sr. Member Hell-raiser 512 364 948 0.54 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355801
    Full Member explorder 446 238 280 1.59 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1108331
    Full Member mfort312 296 232 232 1.28 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=182284
    Full Member pitipawn 578 196 563 1.03 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1076869
    Full Member pandukelana2712 253 168 420 0.60 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1304130
    Full Member athanz88 310 238 731 0.42 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1141886
    Full Member deeperx 305 140 759 0.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1038794
    Full Member joniboini 298 168 790 0.38 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1275282
    Member pafu 501 61 61 8.21 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25731
    Member Technor 105 77 77 1.36 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1134109
    Member Husna QA 121 70 117 1.03 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1827294
    Member kaar 115 112 113 1.02 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1439008
    Member doudou1110 100 108 108 0.93 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1206752
    Member 55Domains 107 116 116 0.92 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=945408
    Member tam31 107 116 116 0.92 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1138263
    Member DdmrDdmr 100 98 294 0.34 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1582324   ;)
    Member bitmover 130 84 448 0.29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1554927
    Member asche 106 112 511 0.21 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1580039
    Jr. Member Dr.Mann 118 31 31 3.81 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806854
    Jr. Member _church 50 30 30 1.67 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1130764
    Jr. Member Arczimedes 50 32 32 1.56 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=366535
    Jr. Member btcnerdie 54 36 36 1.50 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=289275
    Jr. Member gallisiardi 85 58 58 1.47 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1432750
    Jr. Member monero 69 54 54 1.28 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=319826
    Jr. Member swolf 48 38 38 1.26 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1121114
    Jr. Member vizsafe 50 41 41 1.22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1593656
    Jr. Member Steepdev 60 53 53 1.13 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=769913
    Jr. Member CornHub 60 57 57 1.05 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1163497
    Jr. Member moonshoot 51 49 49 1.04 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1308930
    Jr. Member thisisntbic 30 30 30 1.00 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1130992
    Jr. Member BigBoozie 50 52 52 0.96 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=232828
    Jr. Member truckinusa44 55 58 58 0.95 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1076349
    Jr. Member FrozenChaos 50 53 53 0.94 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1227588
    Jr. Member 485Burnt 32 35 35 0.91 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=262951
    Jr. Member synace 28 33 33 0.85 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=204316
    Jr. Member bwonwen2015 30 40 40 0.75 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=565692
    Jr. Member Denver Dan 28 38 38 0.74 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1071247
    Jr. Member gitinahang 30 43 43 0.70 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=229114
    Jr. Member The Sound And Fury 20 30 30 0.67 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=403027
    Jr. Member oririnaldi77 21 34 34 0.62 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=743475
    Jr. Member lbassotto 21 34 34 0.62 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1864663
    Jr. Member butka 49 42 81 0.60 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1938519
    Jr. Member tomatoknight 21 37 37 0.57 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1105396
    Jr. Member Token_King 17 30 30 0.57 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1893109
    Jr. Member Random-String-Symphony 22 39 39 0.56 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1376519
    Jr. Member Errror 25 48 48 0.52 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=234531
    Jr. Member Coingump 35 56 68 0.51 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1712006
    Jr. Member BitcoinZ Community 32 56 64 0.50 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1920236
    Jr. Member Titus Maximus 27 54 54 0.50 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1852851
    Jr. Member Clocktick 22 42 44 0.50 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=989232
    Jr. Member elizabethcrypto 20 41 41 0.49 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=338206
    Jr. Member PrinceFE 15 31 31 0.48 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1294231
    Jr. Member lexmaniax 21 44 44 0.48 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1833704
    Jr. Member totwotoo2 15 32 32 0.47 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1316874
    Jr. Member Husires 26 57 57 0.46 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1701092
    Jr. Member Bitkun 17 38 38 0.45 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1849978
    Jr. Member digilira 23 52 52 0.44 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1188272
    Jr. Member puntpasskick 15 36 36 0.42 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1087601
    Jr. Member Hakjsparrow 15 36 36 0.42 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=384811
    Jr. Member disko_kraljica 23 42 56 0.41 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1894608
    Jr. Member berliston 21 52 52 0.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=242352
    Jr. Member Brzina 20 51 51 0.39 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1125655
    Jr. Member cheater detector 19 49 49 0.39 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1768465
    Jr. Member btcboob 20 56 56 0.36 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=945255
    Jr. Member renriyon 12 34 34 0.35 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1169719
    Jr. Member Stevejob22 11 32 32 0.34 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816987
    Jr. Member coinmachina 10 30 30 0.33 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=938768
    Jr. Member ArchimedesIX 10 30 30 0.33 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=925271
    Jr. Member famlenayd 10 30 30 0.33 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1695947
    Jr. Member toleomasd 10 30 30 0.33 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1696185
    Jr. Member ~Master~ 10 30 30 0.33 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1613648
    Jr. Member Zoom^eR 10 30 30 0.33 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1614770
    Jr. Member saurdinec 10 31 31 0.32 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1696146
    Jr. Member caderiank 10 31 31 0.32 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1696218
    Jr. Member harinikis 10 31 31 0.32 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1682931
    Jr. Member subokletv 10 31 31 0.32 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1686938
    Jr. Member gahavank 10 31 31 0.32 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1696106
    Jr. Member MetalBall 10 31 31 0.32 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1700983
    Jr. Member Madmim 12 38 38 0.32 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1329995
    Jr. Member zein1111 10 32 32 0.31 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1526307
    Jr. Member dukalote 10 31 32 0.31 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1686859
    Jr. Member actuality 10 32 32 0.31 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=202035
    Jr. Member xalanceg 10 32 32 0.31 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1682674
    Jr. Member phaneriks 10 32 32 0.31 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1696018
    Jr. Member rukolksez 10 32 32 0.31 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1683019
    Jr. Member filo1504 10 33 33 0.30 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035306
    Jr. Member theabacuscoin 10 33 33 0.30 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=255340
    Jr. Member LucaSum 13 43 43 0.30 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1178812
    Jr. Member Kryptotaxpert 24 42 81 0.30 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1844322
    Jr. Member The_ Flash 55 56 186 0.30 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1828957
    Jr. Member hestese 12 42 42 0.29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1566997
    Jr. Member ~Spawn~ 12 41 41 0.29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=925989
    Jr. Member maxti 10 35 35 0.29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138595
    Jr. Member X-Tream 10 35 35 0.29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1614841
    Jr. Member vilsareb 10 34 34 0.29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1682986
    Jr. Member ravinesolz 10 34 34 0.29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1683079
    Jr. Member ysteriot 10 36 36 0.28 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=537089
    Jr. Member tamerl4n 10 36 36 0.28 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1937109
    Jr. Member TpoJIb 10 36 36 0.28 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1614853
    Jr. Member dimassuwe 11 40 40 0.28 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1031617
    Jr. Member Ailsa567 13 48 48 0.27 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1217788
    Jr. Member acidium 14 52 52 0.27 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1399342
    Jr. Member acryptodealer 14 52 52 0.27 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1532483
    Jr. Member Freedom Force 10 37 37 0.27 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1012209
    Jr. Member deevilknight 10 37 37 0.27 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=342745
    Jr. Member qrhyxelle 10 37 37 0.27 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1091989
    Jr. Member Impressive 10 39 39 0.26 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1597343
    Jr. Member cryptotycoon33 10 39 39 0.26 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1557929
    Jr. Member TheIO 10 39 39 0.26 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1080657
    Jr. Member SKRAAA 10 39 39 0.26 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1348016
    Jr. Member Hagane 10 38 38 0.26 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1012197
    Jr. Member (GrOOm) 10 38 38 0.26 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1613421
    Jr. Member Mr_Rigos 10 38 38 0.26 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1613462
    Jr. Member lyoth 11 43 43 0.26 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1441193
    Jr. Member juno77 10 40 40 0.25 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=876277
    Jr. Member S[m]OKE 10 40 40 0.25 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1614814
    Jr. Member yakin102 10 40 40 0.25 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1606406
    Jr. Member btchalo 10 42 42 0.24 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1191255
    Jr. Member btctrad0r 10 42 42 0.24 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=34334
    Jr. Member qssi6132 10 42 42 0.24 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1892344
    Jr. Member HappyDumper 10 41 41 0.24 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1701002
    Jr. Member krainzmaster 13 42 55 0.24 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1909851
    Jr. Member gonnafly 12 53 53 0.23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=327995
    Jr. Member water8898 12 42 52 0.23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1895374
    Jr. Member CoachCarter 10 44 44 0.23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1701056
    Jr. Member viper2zero 10 44 44 0.23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=105196
    Jr. Member komawei 10 44 44 0.23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1071690
    Jr. Member Technos 10 44 44 0.23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1069491
    Jr. Member iiikkkxj 10 43 43 0.23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=301977
    Jr. Member xoxkr94629 10 43 43 0.23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1892340
    Jr. Member ZeewRep 10 46 46 0.22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1823914
    Jr. Member blizzard31 10 46 46 0.22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1914752
    Jr. Member pvni33280 10 46 46 0.22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1886488
    Jr. Member zvueo 10 46 46 0.22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1286044
    Jr. Member Numir 10 46 46 0.22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1520654
    Jr. Member Cassy14 10 46 46 0.22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1152106
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    Jr. Member anonymous2020 10 46 46 0.22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1717895
    Jr. Member ixwaw548 10 46 46 0.22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1892350
    Jr. Member svetabez 10 44 45 0.22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1358841
    Jr. Member prototype40 10 45 45 0.22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1633377
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    Jr. Member Anonymous100 11 52 52 0.21 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1355569
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    Jr. Member pown0751 10 51 51 0.20 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1900611
    Jr. Member kadirmon 10 50 50 0.20 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1195798
    Jr. Member erik m. 10 50 50 0.20 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=914360
    Jr. Member huweiooo 10 42 50 0.20 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1957573
    Jr. Member wilbursina 10 48 49 0.20 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1285420
    Jr. Member metalssina 10 48 49 0.20 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1285441
    Jr. Member Alid 11 59 59 0.19 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=827333
    Jr. Member Jjunpat 10 54 54 0.19 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1733269
    Jr. Member JacquesLeGrande 10 53 53 0.19 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=941580
    Jr. Member JPCain 10 53 53 0.19 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1642675
    Jr. Member Mixa zarik 10 52 52 0.19 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1445179
    Jr. Member piratek 10 57 57 0.18 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=982562
    Jr. Member always1337 10 57 57 0.18 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1236244
    Jr. Member DoYouCrypto? 10 56 56 0.18 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1176339
    Jr. Member BlankZuel 10 56 56 0.18 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1286163
    Jr. Member batgrzl 10 56 56 0.18 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1055751
    Jr. Member Trukkur 10 55 55 0.18 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=338816
    Jr. Member CryptoBalds 10 55 55 0.18 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1701050
    Jr. Member sletra 12 56 65 0.18 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1369262
    Jr. Member Splabs 13 42 73 0.18 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1561025
    Jr. Member Dilemmaremma 14 56 84 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1401933
    Jr. Member CasinoExpert 20 56 121 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1800324
    Jr. Member alia 113 56 677 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1764044
    Jr. Member v.zhuk 10 56 60 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1900079
    Jr. Member mining_spaceship 10 59 59 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=928350
    Jr. Member Aptekary 10 56 59 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1812623
    Jr. Member kytsou 10 59 59 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345102
    Jr. Member Charlie0299 10 59 59 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1285335
    Jr. Member Owl_Fintech 10 59 59 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=915339
    Jr. Member violet.elephant 10 56 59 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1854137
    Jr. Member matematik 10 59 59 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1538831
    Jr. Member Gamedroc 10 58 58 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1203349
    Jr. Member Ranger4R 10 58 58 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1074110
    Jr. Member alexeyvill 10 58 58 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1682907
    Jr. Member Sinamail17 10 58 58 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1285363
    Jr. Member BUSTEDCLUB 10 58 58 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1323538
    Jr. Member letminkola 10 58 58 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1554941
    Jr. Member styvinplo 10 58 58 0.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1513830
    Jr. Member All.Days.Plus 10 56 63 0.16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1909656
    Jr. Member moonlight666 10 56 62 0.16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1895386
    Jr. Member max2607 10 56 61 0.16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947848
    Jr. Member Stolaroff 10 56 61 0.16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1855326
    Jr. Member poGium 13 56 83 0.16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1707287
    Jr. Member Marcsymon 10 56 67 0.15 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1085905
    Jr. Member Cyril jay 10 56 65 0.15 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1670222
    Jr. Member MintDiceSupport 10 56 72 0.14 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1923070
    Jr. Member ahtsham90 12 56 90 0.13 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1026755
    Jr. Member sam2014 10 56 86 0.12 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=688068
    Jr. Member rmel0924 10 56 82 0.12 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1899397
    Jr. Member cryptorampage 29 56 247 0.12 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1568370
    Jr. Member Inoss 13 56 129 0.10 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1043684
    Jr. Member epidose 10 56 99 0.10 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1901520
    Jr. Member Talk merit 12 42 140 0.09 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1977706
    Jr. Member AhaFly 18 56 210 0.09 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1852410
       


    4. Who may be in consideration for Legendary ?:

    Code:
    rank        name       merit activity posts ratioMeritToPost url
    Hero Member CoinDiver 1001 778 778 1.29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=60653
    Hero Member SuperClam 1002 784 784 1.28 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=321133
    Hero Member DanielBTC 1001 787 787 1.27 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64847
    Hero Member lavajumper 1017 801 801 1.27 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=94331
    Hero Member casinocoin 1050 824 824 1.27 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=181084
    Hero Member lukyforvar 1001 795 795 1.26 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=102378
    Hero Member No_2 1004 806 806 1.25 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=82566
    Hero Member punkrock 1009 807 807 1.25 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=174939
    Hero Member The Frisian 1001 808 808 1.24 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=365501
    Hero Member Relaxedsense 1002 805 805 1.24 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=253843
    Hero Member CosaNostra 1004 809 809 1.24 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=161207
    Hero Member snortex 1001 816 816 1.23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=246704
    Hero Member jtoomim 1001 818 818 1.22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=172727
    Hero Member noise23 1002 826 826 1.21 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=223359
    Hero Member JuanHungLo 1001 832 832 1.20 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=166737
    Hero Member arulbero 1026 855 855 1.20 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=170072
    Hero Member EbonHawk 1004 843 843 1.19 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=163494
    Hero Member hodlcoins 1009 854 854 1.18 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=311045
    Hero Member mmm01 1051 893 893 1.18 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=263733
    Hero Member keystroke 1004 854 854 1.18 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4248
    Hero Member fitraok09 1001 853 853 1.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=352642
    Hero Member xcbtrader 1001 865 865 1.16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=263267
    Hero Member George5 1001 862 862 1.16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=94260
    Hero Member bitcasino.io 1002 865 865 1.16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=207035
    Hero Member Vin 1001 877 877 1.14 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=330421
    Hero Member Mapuo 1002 881 880 1.14 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64396
    Hero Member filharvey 1001 884 884 1.13 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13672
    Hero Member NattyLiteCoin 1021 914 914 1.12 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=265513
    Hero Member Mad_Max 1001 900 900 1.11 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=103911
    Hero Member lestherat 1001 912 912 1.10 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=400415
    Hero Member IGHOR 1009 917 917 1.10 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=116332
    Hero Member nopedope89 1059 968 968 1.09 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=231477
    Hero Member maikelblogo 1005 931 931 1.08 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=115900
    Hero Member jiggytom 1009 932 932 1.08 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=361695
    Hero Member pinkman12345 1011 938 938 1.08 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=288496
    Hero Member principiante 1001 798 948 1.06 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=142966
    Hero Member elbill 1003 840 948 1.06 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=73326
    Hero Member A-Bolt 1006 957 957 1.05 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=33631
    Hero Member idev 1002 987 987 1.02 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1626
    Hero Member bcmine 1005 952 994 1.01 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258048
    Hero Member oddwh 1001 854 989 1.01 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=119702
    Hero Member funkenstein 1010 1005 1005 1.00 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388672
    Hero Member vancefox 1005 966 1002 1.00 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=368526
    Hero Member Unread 1001 798 1049 0.95 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=537728
    Hero Member dishku 1001 910 1053 0.95 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=515892
    Hero Member thehun 1010 966 1079 0.94 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=82365
    Hero Member wacko 1014 868 1075 0.94 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=32881
    Hero Member kken01 1002 854 1079 0.93 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=415400
    Hero Member xlcus 1009 868 1135 0.89 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=9106
    Hero Member Chris! 1004 868 1146 0.88 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662129
    Hero Member JensS 1011 826 1155 0.88 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=529888
    Hero Member Undland 1017 868 1165 0.87 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=289619
    Hero Member X7 1003 868 1156 0.87 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=360896
    Hero Member adjiadjo 1002 910 1188 0.84 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=231127
    Hero Member benjy33 1001 938 1209 0.83 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=546177
    Hero Member Apriand 1001 868 1246 0.80 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669062
    Hero Member rizzlarolla 1001 798 1316 0.76 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=506438
    Hero Member zedicus 1002 826 1352 0.74 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=87896
    Hero Member jeremypwr 1001 952 1379 0.73 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=137185
    Hero Member craslovell 1010 980 1406 0.72 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=122434
    Hero Member Thekool1s 1001 882 1419 0.71 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345771
    Hero Member beerlover 1002 910 1417 0.71 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=152752
    Hero Member yeswepump 1007 952 1431 0.70 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=500098
    Hero Member BitcoinHunt3r 1002 938 1442 0.69 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=515719
    Hero Member elrippo 1001 994 1453 0.69 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=448172
    Hero Member antyivan 1032 1008 1522 0.68 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=523755
    Hero Member BetKing.io 1003 868 1495 0.67 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=565024
    Hero Member jak3 1001 882 1510 0.66 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555318
    Hero Member Za1n 1006 882 1528 0.66 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=529727
    Hero Member giveen 1004 826 1549 0.65 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=146519
    Hero Member xRaVeNx 1009 812 1577 0.64 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=493987
    Hero Member valley365 1001 826 1610 0.62 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=150593
    Hero Member warningsigns 1079 868 1753 0.62 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=406432
    Hero Member kodtycoon 1002 938 1611 0.62 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=174773
    Hero Member User705 1005 826 1638 0.61 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=119418
    Hero Member rico666 1005 896 1674 0.60 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=159476
    Hero Member bileq 1002 896 1671 0.60 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555858
    Hero Member Wilhelm 1007 840 1695 0.59 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=152333
    Hero Member cygan 1004 938 1734 0.58 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=27470
    Hero Member AcidSun 1003 910 1727 0.58 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=463710
    Hero Member MetalEngine 1020 910 1794 0.57 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=513803
    Hero Member Fredomago 1002 882 1755 0.57 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662244
    Hero Member jackbox 1011 882 1955 0.52 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=389329
    Hero Member coinplus 1003 994 1962 0.51 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=235218
    Hero Member theoulis 1001 966 1972 0.51 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=515323
    Hero Member upsidedown75 1004 896 1979 0.51 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=519996
    Hero Member samsonn25 1003 854 2035 0.49 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130165
    Hero Member svetoch 1001 826 2039 0.49 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=390821
    Hero Member chichidori 1001 938 2050 0.49 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=557413
    Hero Member Miiike 1024 966 2199 0.47 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552299
    Hero Member nasituygun 1006 882 2199 0.46 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=439833
    Hero Member dmwardjr 1008 966 2243 0.45 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=379920
    Hero Member cunicula 1003 840 2241 0.45 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14703
    Hero Member cpfreeplz 1033 868 2308 0.45 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555171
    Hero Member nwoolls 1001 840 2242 0.45 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=100786
    Hero Member BobLawblaw 1257 882 2866 0.44 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=569455
    Hero Member BitJohn 1001 826 2279 0.44 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=110699
    Hero Member HagssFIN 1109 868 2609 0.43 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=348185
    Hero Member btcdevil 1016 924 2353 0.43 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551575
    Hero Member jakelyson 1001 924 2371 0.42 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555534
    Hero Member kryptqnick 1009 882 2424 0.42 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=559842
    Hero Member RJX 1003 910 2474 0.41 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=181818
    Hero Member AmoreJaz 1011 882 2437 0.41 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=529754
    Hero Member swogerino 1004 938 2530 0.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551460
    Hero Member krupenin 1001 924 2530 0.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=535819
    Hero Member BlockEye 1095 924 2715 0.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553066
    Hero Member Fatanut 1026 826 2723 0.38 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675421
    Hero Member milewilda 1003 896 2731 0.37 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662950
    Hero Member twbt 1096 952 2969 0.37 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=137541
    Hero Member FutureBitcoin 1002 924 2755 0.36 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=592311
    Hero Member patmast3r 1001 980 2897 0.35 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=230980
    Hero Member arallmuus 1005 966 2890 0.35 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=153149
    Hero Member absy 1004 980 3029 0.33 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=336412
    Hero Member leowonderful 1008 910 3101 0.33 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=416731
    Hero Member guybrushthreepwood 1009 854 3158 0.32 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=187618
    Hero Member Lionidas 1007 882 3109 0.32 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=657268
    Hero Member Cripto DeD 1002 952 3185 0.31 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=394642
    Hero Member goinmerry 1007 952 3215 0.31 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525508
    Hero Member SPQRCoin 1001 966 3601 0.28 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551559
    Hero Member starmman 1017 868 3662 0.28 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553538
    Hero Member davide72 1001 938 3534 0.28 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=539767
    Hero Member MinerHQ 1009 1022 3939 0.26 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=373043
    Hero Member mexxer-2 1003 868 4078 0.25 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=341982
    Hero Member Joel_Jantsen 1139 938 4488 0.25 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=560412
    Hero Member Mrpumperitis 1056 882 4242 0.25 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=494856
    Hero Member socks435 1003 938 4798 0.21 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558519
    Hero Member crairezx20 1013 994 6386 0.16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=539350



    5. Breakdown by Rank, Activity and Merit:

    A breakdown by activity and rank allows us to see even deeper into how each one of us is in relation to next rank's objectives. Since both Activity and Merit are required, what If done is break down each of these variables into set of 20% (% of variable objective completed), with a >100% group as well (over the limit).

    Green: Could Rank Up but lacks activity or is under consideration (Legendaries only).
    Red:    Could have ranked up, but lacks merit.
    Blue:   Lacks both activity and merit (each group tells us how much the users have moved towards the goals).

    Examples of interpretation:

    * Let's say a user has only reached 22% of Activity required by his next rank level, and 14% of Merit, he would be on the A: [20%..40%) M: (0%..20%) segment, being far away on both objectives.

    * If a user has reached 82% of Activity required by his next rank level, and 74% of Merit, he would be on the A: [80%..100%) M: (60%..80%) segment.


    Regardless of activity, most Heros have way to go on Merit since they are on the [40%-60%) segment of the Merit required by Legendary rank.


    Most Sr Member have way to go on Merit since they are on the [40%-60%) ; less than half of these are within 20% of activity goal as well.


    Yes again the mayority is on the  [40%-60%) merit segment, with more than 75% being near the Activity goal.
    The above cases are likely to be in the [40%-60%) merit segment with a large contribution from initial merit airdrop.


    Things change radically here, since the initial airdrop of merit is proportionally further away from next rank's goal requirements (10 fold vs 2-2,5 fold in higher ranks). Mayority is in the lower merit band (0%..20%).


    Distribution in terms of merit follows a pyramid shape based on metir, and repeats the pattern on each activity block.

    Full table:

  • illiki23
    Sr. Member
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    Activity: 602
    Merit: 295


    Hail Eris!


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    April 17, 2018, 03:46:49 PM
     #2
    I am so glad to see actual analysis starting up in a couple of threads.

    This reminds me of a Kaggle contest which tried to model and detect situations which would trigger an altruistic response when forum members are asked to purchase a pizza for someone.  This was the purpose of the random acts of pizza subreddit.

    The interesting, and somewhat relevant part, was that we were able to use machine learning along with keyword analysis to identify key features of granted versus rejected requests.  It was not surprising that the ones which were rejected had a higher frequency of 'I'/'my'/etc keywords rather than 'we'/'us'/etc.  The guys who held the contest ended up identifying a number of features that helped them model altruistic responses.

    I started the 'bitcointalk visualization project' awhile back but was plucked up by Oyster to develop before I got too far.  I can't wait to collect and then analyze posts which received merit versus posts which did not.  One interesting thing I hope to find is that there will be clusters forming for legitimately gained merit versus farmed versus posts which received no merit - and that we can build a model which will let us guess which are which.

    I am back though! 
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    Awesome work, as usual.
    So the merit system is really working on stopping non-deserving users to rank-up, but also is showing how it can be corrupted by so many users.
    Once detected, what is the path to follow? I mean: when you detect this kind of users, earning merit in such an improbable-fair way, what do you do? Do you report them?
    One of my deepest concern regarding the rank system is the spamming: we all have seen how many users are selling merits as a new kind of scam, as well as accounts. On the other hand, we have many users farming alt accounts in order to rank up their alt and join many signatures or be able to scam more users.

    Have you thought about a new statistical insight into this misuse? I mean: Can you make another thread (I know you are already tired, but your work is so amazing I'm afraid you are going to have many request Tongue), regarding how many users are scamming the merit system?
    And, besides, as you said, a comparison between the ranking activity before and after the merit system?

    Sorry for asking you to work even more harder. But I truly admire your work jejee.  Grin

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    Always enjoy your posts OP.. you are a legendary in the making yourself. All the people moaning about merit need to look to the likes of you for inspiration on what a quality informative post is
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    Quote from: seoincorporation on April 17, 2018, 03:46:55 PM
    <...>
    Have you thought about a new statistical insight into this misuse? I mean: Can you make another thread (I know you are already tired, but your work is so amazing I'm afraid you are going to have many request Tongue), regarding how many users are scamming the merit system?
    And, besides, as you said, a comparison between the ranking activity before and after the merit system?
    <...>

    Thanks seoincorporation. Truth is, I need a bit of a break now to recover energy..
     
    Regarding the nº of users scamming the merit system, I guess we could agree on various methods taking place:
    a)   Transfer of sMerit between main/alt accounts
    b)   Swapping sMerit (on purpose)
    c)   Purchasing sMerit of others

    They all end up in the Forum logs and are there for everyone’s “view”. The problem is discerning proper sMerit awarding from the above. Since awarding is by nature subjective and not subject to proof of work (pun), it needs a human viewer to check suspect cases one by one.
    What can be done is, apart from current manual reporting, try to device lists of suspect cases pulled up from data aggregation.

    I gave it a go a month ago (see https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/3167331.0). That is a tough post to read, but to cut a long story short, the idea was to try to find circular merit; that is, users that award merit and get it back in return. Now this up to a certain point is logical, since sets of users like other people’s posts and vice-versa. I have a couple of such in my merit history.

    It´s when the quantity gets high in these circular transactions that we can say we have detected a “suspect”. Now depending on the amount of sMerit given/received and/or number of times, we can filter the list and work on it (alas) one by one, to see if cases “a” and “b” can be detected (case type “c” is much more difficult since I doubt it will lead to a circular swap of sMerit).

    For example, the tab labelled “Given Received Merit I” referred to in the above referenced thread, has at the top of the list (file created a month ago or so ->   https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Su1vulMzsbkYPOsU8llr8PrQXRPvy4oM_E218klwHh8/edit#gid=968451010):
    User 377987 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=377987) had given to user 1580039 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1580039) 50 sMerits over in 41 Transactions, but receives none in return.
    Not surprisingly, these two accounts came up today on my post as “weird”.
    Unfortunately, someone has to grab the list and filter it, to reduce the number of suspect candidates to apply a manual check on one by one check…


    On the other topic, to perform a comparison between the ranking system before and not is very difficult: This threads analysis is based on current user profile (of users awarded merit). What is used is a snapshot of some of the fields of user’s profiles, as of yesterday.

    To do a comparison, we would need a similar snapshot belonging to some time ago (which we cannot retrieve) and do something similar but only related to activity. With this, we could compare throughput today vs throughput a year ago for example (although circumstances are very different now: many more users on the one side due to recent hype, but a merit system on the other that acts as a deterrent).

    Even so, we can see with today’s analysis that all those that could have ranked up and didn’t due to lack of Merit would have ranked up with the old system (48,78%). I think that´s the best we can do for now...

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    April 17, 2018, 04:53:56 PM
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    Quote from: TMAN on April 17, 2018, 04:05:05 PM
    Always enjoy your posts OP.. you are a legendary in the making yourself. All the people moaning about merit need to look to the likes of you for inspiration on what a quality informative post is

    Cheers TMAN, I can see that you're going to make it to real Legendary in a couple of weeks (whitelisting time aside). I think a summary post on the journey so far on your behalf would be most welcome when you do  Wink

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    Quote from: DdmrDdmr on April 17, 2018, 04:47:09 PM



    Thanks for your answer, man. Yes, I came into your last month publication (which I haven't seen, unfortunately) and this is truly amazing, yet difficult to understand.
    Take a break if you wish, we all will be waiting for you!! Your work is awesome.

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    I was really looking for a topic like that. Very well explained and with an excellent analysis. This kind of statistic must always be taken into account when radical changes occur in a large group of people like this. Analyzing just based on what each one lives and feels is quite different from analyzing based on numbers.

    Given these numbers, it is clear that the funnel created with the addition of Merits is much larger than any other change. And by having turned rank up into something so rare, it's pretty likely we'll see more and more people looking for alternatives outside the rules. I still believe that the best alternative would be to turn sMerit into a hot potato, where it is not good to keep holding it for long. Use in 1 week or it will be redistributed.

    I found it interesting to know that I am among the 1146 Full members who could have been ranking up for Sr Members but who have not yet reached the necessary merits. Less than 0.01 achieved. This seems extremely exaggerated.

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    Quote from: DdmrDdmr on April 17, 2018, 03:30:34 PM
    * pafu -> Being a Member, started off with a 500 Merit airdrop instead of 10 (could be a bought account, but I thought there were no demotions..). -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25731
    If you delete the posts that gave you activity points, you will lose them. Pafu has posted this in the Portuguese local board (my language):

    Quote from: pafu on February 22, 2018, 02:24:32 PM
    Puts, perdi o rank de Hero Member porque apaguei meus posts  Shocked

    Which translates to: "Shit, I lost my Hero Member rank because I deleted my posts".
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    April 17, 2018, 06:12:52 PM
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    Quote from: vit05 on April 17, 2018, 05:55:53 PM
    Given these numbers, it is clear that the funnel created with the addition of Merits is much larger than any other change. And by having turned rank up into something so rare, it's pretty likely we'll see more and more people looking for alternatives outside the rules. I still believe that the best alternative would be to turn sMerit into a hot potato, where it is not good to keep holding it for long. Use in 1 week or it will be redistributed.

    I found it interesting to know that I am among the 1146 Full members who could have been ranking up for Sr Members but who have not yet reached the necessary merits. Less than 0.01 achieved. This seems extremely exaggerated.


    Yes, I had a similar idea, halfway between a hot potato and a full merit decay (https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/2818350.msg34762749#msg34762749). The basic idea is to remove stale sMerit from accounts after say 3 months, and move it on to additional merit sources that can distribute it. Easier said than done, since the "after 3 months" would require tying sMerit to a FIFO system.

    In relation to your second comment, just to state that the analysis is a measure of the pipeline to the next level. Those that have achieved ranking up (say last week for example) are already in their new baseline and will surely be classified as having insufficient merit and insufficient activity to rank up, but residing on their new level (that's why I think I'm not getting the 0.01 you mention).

    Thanks for the feedback.

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    April 17, 2018, 06:16:55 PM
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    Quote from: TryNinja on April 17, 2018, 06:06:36 PM
    Quote from: DdmrDdmr on April 17, 2018, 03:30:34 PM
    * pafu -> Being a Member, started off with a 500 Merit airdrop instead of 10 (could be a bought account, but I thought there were no demotions..). -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25731
    If you delete the posts that gave you activity points, you will lose them. Pafu has posted this in the Portuguese local board (my language):

    Quote from: pafu on February 22, 2018, 02:24:32 PM
    Puts, perdi o rank de Hero Member porque apaguei meus posts  Shocked

    Which translates to: "Shit, I lost my Hero Member rank because I deleted my posts".

    Thanks for the insight. It seemed something rather weird, and now we know we can demoted ourselves by going easy on post deletion.

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    Well this is a hard and tiring work. I have made some statistic back there when merit is out and it took me some times to finish it and it is just only a small statistic (you can see my created topic), but you, made a great job.  I admire your good work, i hope with more statistic like this, there will be improvement from the forum and most importantly from people who can only whines. Cheers for your merit !

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    The latest that got me going was one related to rank scaling and merit.
    This has been on my TODO for a long time. I'm especially interested in a list of users who ranked up with merit, and a list of users who need activity only to rank up.

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    I thought a Hero member wouldn't be demoted after deleting posts, but apparently it does.
    It could be bought accounts: merit is now more valuable than activity, and it cleans up past spam.

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    Where's nullius in your list? He did rank up already, but has enough merit to rank up twice more once he has enough activity.
    I'm surprised only a few higher ranking accounts have earned enough merit in 12 weeks to rank up. At this rate, new Legendary accounts will become very rare in a few months.

    Quote from: seoincorporation on April 17, 2018, 03:46:55 PM
    So the merit system is really working on stopping non-deserving users to rank-up, but also is showing how it can be corrupted by so many users.
    The number of cheaters is currently relatively high, but that will end once they run out of sMerit to sell/trade/give to alts.
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    Quote from: LoyceV on April 17, 2018, 06:40:35 PM
    I'm surprised only a few higher ranking accounts have earned enough merit in 12 weeks to rank up. At this rate, new Legendary accounts will become very rare in a few months.


    I'm not sure of the motivation behind the bounty spammers, but for others the promotion from Hero to Legendary doesn't really make a great deal of difference. I've got more than enough in my signature for my immediate needs. It would be nice to be able to include a small image, but that is not going to happen for reasons that I can understand. I've picked up about 300 merits from board activities that I have enjoyed.I'm sure that if I applied myself the other 200 would be easy to achieve after a bit of research, but I prefer to visit Bitcoin Talk for relaxation, information exchange, and a bit of experimenting with social networking.

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    Quote from: LoyceV on April 17, 2018, 06:40:35 PM
    This has been on my TODO for a long time. I'm especially interested in a list of users who ranked up with merit, and a list of users who need activity only to rank up.

    The first list I partially published at the end of this post: https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/3218442.msg33469339#msg33469339. It is three weeks old though and list is only for top ranks. If you need the complete list I can redo that part an publish it, but somewhere round the end of week.

    The second list you're asking about shoud be the one in the scrollable area under the "3. Who has got enough merit, but lacks activity?:" section. It is a complete list.


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    Yes.I only considered ranks that needed to receive sMerit to rank up, and since Legendaries do not need to rank up, they are left out. Newbies and Jr ranks are also left out since the don't need sMerit to reach the next level. Also Staff, Vip, Donator, Founder, and Moderators are left out. Copper I decided to leave out, since I see their Rank as Copper regardless of Merit and Activity.

    In the complete merit file with all awarded sMerit until the 13/04/2018, there are:

    Nº of sMerit awarded in a Tx:                   131.060  
    Nº of distinct users that Sent sMerit:         12.518  
    Nº of distinct users that Received sMerit:   13.807
    -> I only use the subset above stated related to ranks.

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    As above stated, I left Copper Members out deliberately.

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    That's what I fear too. Also sMerit awarding per Tx is way lower than at the begining. Logical sin brand new toy days are over, but even more difficult to gain a large aggregate of sMerit. This could discourage a fair bit higher ranks since progression is slow (with exceptions).

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    Oh! I nearly forgot about the discussions about Bitcoin. Smiley

    Yeah, wish bitcoin section was more informative and open to serious stuff though, and less of a spam area for activity. Maybe the technical area would be interesting, but it's probably a bit of a challange to really get into the root of it. I may give a go further down the road.

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    Great work on compiling some interesting stats. If it's not hard to do can you break down the 48.15% that need both Merit and Activity to rank up into those that have Merit>Activity and Merit<Activty? I think that'll give further insight as to how many are likely rank up any time soon.
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    April 18, 2018, 07:39:14 AM
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    Quote from: TheQuin on April 18, 2018, 07:25:22 AM
    Great work on compiling some interesting stats. If it's not hard to do can you break down the 48.15% that need both Merit and Activity to rank up into those that have Merit>Activity and Merit<Activty? I think that'll give further insight as to how many are likely rank up any time soon.

    I actually thought of doing it, but didn't want to make it too extense. I'll give it a go though in the coming  days since as you say the insight will be interesting. Thanks.

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    April 19, 2018, 11:52:33 AM
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    Quote from: TheQuin on April 18, 2018, 07:25:22 AM
    Great work on compiling some interesting stats. If it's not hard to do can you break down the 48.15% that need both Merit and Activity to rank up into those that have Merit>Activity and Merit<Activty? I think that'll give further insight as to how many are likely rank up any time soon.

    I added some more graphs on the OP with the info you suggested adding. Quite some detail there, and struggle everywhere to get enough merit ..

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    April 19, 2018, 12:04:34 PM
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    Quote from: DdmrDdmr on April 19, 2018, 11:52:33 AM
    I added some more graphs on the OP with the info you suggested adding. Quite some detail there, and struggle everywhere to get enough merit ..

    That's excellent and a lot more detailed than I was expecting. We still have to remember how short a period of time people have had to get the merit compared to how long it takes to get the activity. That's a function of the way everyone got the same initial distribution by their rank ignoring their activity. I'd think that if you compare those numbers in a couple of months time that there will be a big improvement.
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