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    February 13, 2014, 06:09:35 PM
     #33101
    Quote from: opticalcarrier on February 13, 2014, 06:00:34 PM
    Quote from: TwinWinNerD on February 13, 2014, 05:45:50 PM
    In trust we trust:
    In fide credimus

    (no idea if that's a valid translation!)


    Id say that "in no trust we trust"  since we are trying to go trustless here


    Quote from: klee on February 13, 2014, 05:49:50 PM
    SPQR Tongue

    Had to troll this, apologies Wink

    wait arent you greek?  LOL what are you doing saying that?
    He wanted a latin proverb Tongue

    Else I would recommend a Greek one:
    "IΣXYΣ EN TH ENΩΣEI" - Homer

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    February 13, 2014, 06:10:02 PM
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    Quote from: wesleyh on February 13, 2014, 05:10:57 PM
    Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 13, 2014, 05:08:37 PM
    Quote from: wesleyh on February 13, 2014, 05:04:42 PM
    How often should one check this? What does a negative number mean? Can <= 0 be ignored?

    Also, how do you (the server) determine a client is really forging, do you just check if it's online and responding to peer requests and that's it?

    It's updated each time u invoke startForging or a new block forged, I suppose. The code is written by Jean-Luc, I might be wrong.

    U can't determine if a client is forging, server does it.

    But "forging" really just means "being connected to the network" right? There's not really a difference between a person that has connected but not called the startForging() api, and one that has? Except that the first one is included in the chance to get the next block forged.

    Forging means the server knows your secretPhrase. When it does, it automatically checks whether it is possible to generate a block, every second. Even if the account effective balance is 0, it will keep checking, so you could start forging before the required minimum 1440 number of confirmations, and once the effective balance becomes > 0, the account will automatically be forging. It will continue forging indefinitely, unless stopForging is called (lock account does the same), or the server is shutdown.

    The deadline is the estimated time until your next chance to generate a block. Your chance changes only when a new block arrives, so only then the user will get a notification of a deadline change. In between such notifications, client developers can just decrement the deadline with 1 second every 1 second.

    It is a bug (fixed) if the deadline is ever shown as negative, this can happen if the server time is behind the timestamp of the last received block.

    Users of the javascript client will get a JSON notification when the deadline changes. Client developers using the Java API directly can register a listener to receive such notifications, just like it is done in User.java:

    Code:
           Generator.addListener(new Listener<Generator>() {
                @Override
                public void notify(Generator generator) {
                    JSONObject response = new JSONObject();
                    response.put("response", "setBlockGenerationDeadline");
                    response.put("deadline", generator.getDeadline());
                    for (User user : allUsers) {
                        if (Arrays.equals(generator.getPublicKey(), user.getPublicKey())) {
                            user.send(response);
                        }
                    }
                }
            }, Generator.Event.GENERATION_DEADLINE);
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    February 13, 2014, 06:12:48 PM
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    Quote from: Anon136 on February 13, 2014, 06:07:31 PM
    my very smart wife suggested that perhaps the reason why the price is rising is because our whale is out of power.

    I for one thank our whale.  Seriously.  Dropping the price gives even better opportunity for others to enter.  Maybe they realized this and capitaliazed instead of maintaining their butthurt.

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    February 13, 2014, 06:13:31 PM
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    Quote from: klee on February 13, 2014, 06:09:35 PM
    Quote from: opticalcarrier on February 13, 2014, 06:00:34 PM
    Quote from: TwinWinNerD on February 13, 2014, 05:45:50 PM
    In trust we trust:
    In fide credimus

    (no idea if that's a valid translation!)


    Id say that "in no trust we trust"  since we are trying to go trustless here


    Quote from: klee on February 13, 2014, 05:49:50 PM
    SPQR Tongue

    Had to troll this, apologies Wink

    wait arent you greek?  LOL what are you doing saying that?
    He wanted a latin proverb Tongue

    Else I would recommend a Greek one:
    "IΣXYΣ EN TH ENΩΣEI" - Homer

    United we have more strength
    Unity is strength
    IΣXYΣ = power/strength
    ENΩΣEI = unity

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    February 13, 2014, 06:15:47 PM
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    dawn tai zen right after all we will see a new high Cheesy
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    February 13, 2014, 06:17:45 PM
     #33106
    Quote from: marcus03 on February 13, 2014, 05:40:11 PM
    Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 13, 2014, 05:24:41 PM
    @ Client devs

    I'm refactoring Voting System code, it will be added to test version next week. FYI.

    Change in plans? AE and VS before April?

    No. We stick to the plan.

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    February 13, 2014, 06:19:07 PM
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    Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 13, 2014, 05:05:24 PM
    U should ask Jean-Luc if he is planning to change min fee in the nearest future.
    The answer is I don't know yet. It is not just changing a hardcoded constant. We have the logic of multiplying amounts by 100 all over the code (yet not absolutely everywhere), this needs to be cleaned up and all the amounts need to be handled in a consistent way, i.e. all in NXT-cents, and only display them as fractional in the client, and parse user input as fractional in the client. I need to go through the code and fix that, and then track down and fix the bugs resulting from my fixes.
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    February 13, 2014, 06:22:54 PM
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    Developers of NXT client:

    I see that there's a couple of you and you're all working separately. I also saw so far that everyone has good elements - some excel in some features, some in others. For instance this latest wesleyh client looks very good from the GUI (graphical interface) point, but wesleyh said he doesn't have the inside built yet.
    Can you combine the good elements or share some of the elements to get the best features rolled into something greater?

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    February 13, 2014, 06:24:36 PM
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    wazup with testnet? doesnt work at all.!
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    February 13, 2014, 06:25:44 PM
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    Quote from: opticalcarrier on February 13, 2014, 05:54:58 PM
    It doesnt look like it will happen in the near future - I got with him and hes actually not aware yet if there will be backwards compatibility between existing clients and a new client that supports 01 NXT as lowest transaction fee and .01 NXT as lowest amount to be used in a transfer.  Can you comment on what happens on current code and if a forger on exsiting code sees a signed transaction from a user on new code who signed a tranasaction to transfer .01NXT and a fee of .1 NXT?  He also is concerned about existing javascript IU implementations

    Can't predict, need to test.

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    February 13, 2014, 06:25:55 PM
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    Quote from: TwinWinNerD on February 13, 2014, 05:45:50 PM
    Quote from: Anon136 on February 13, 2014, 05:43:52 PM
    So if we ever make coins or something we will need a slogan. USD has in god we trust. Bitcoin has "vires in numeris" which means strength in numbers. I thought for nxt we might use "In emergentia speramus" which translates to "in emergence we trust"

    I wanted to write something else underneath the nxt logo that i put on my silver bars so "In emergentia speramus" is what i came up with. All constructive comments welcome.

    In trust we trust:
    In fide credimus

    (no idea if that's a valid translation!)

    Should be "In fide fidimus"

    credere has more the connotation of "to believe".

    How about: nemini confide (ne BCNext quidem)
    "Trust no one" (not even BCNext)

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    February 13, 2014, 06:28:36 PM
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    Quote from: BitcoinForumator on February 13, 2014, 06:22:54 PM
    Developers of NXT client:

    I see that there's a couple of you and you're all working separately. I also saw so far that everyone has good elements - some excel in some features, some in others. For instance this latest wesleyh client looks very good from the GUI (graphical interface) point, but wesleyh said he doesn't have the inside built yet.
    Can you combine the good elements or share some of the elements to get the best features rolled into something greater?



    Actually I built my client in HTML/JS/CSS because it's EASY for other people to understand and help develop the code. That was the goal all along.

    Not sure what you mean about not having the inside built yet though. I will be releasing standalone versions later on, need to still fix and implement some things. Then the code gets put on github and anyone can make pull requests.

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    February 13, 2014, 06:31:44 PM
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    Quote from: Passion_ltc on February 13, 2014, 04:19:03 PM
    Nxt is growing quickly the last few days.  Shocked


    Nice to see. I hope that the price stays low until march.
    Now that it is bobsled Thursday at olympics and all the clients coming out at the same time, I sold most all my DOGE and bought more NXT. I guess I should have done this yesterday Sad

    By March, we will have so much more end user features for NXT that I doubt we will see prices this low. If it werent for the MtGox BTC disaster, we probably would be over .0001 now, but when BTC is sick, all cryptos suffer.

    By March, we have half a dozen easy to use clients, even web based. AE where you can trade all other cryptos. Automated gateways to avoid all the exchange nightmares. Possibly zeronet (testnet for NXTcash), rumors of NXT VM.

    Oh, I almost forgot, we will also have marketing campaigns that have been waiting for end user friendly clients, tipbot campaigns, etc, etc.

    NXT and DOGE will be climbing the ladder together on coinmarketcap. I really like the wolfe graphics. NXT represents the second gen crypo tech and DOGE is the second gen crypto marketing.

    Once we get automated gateway for DOGE -> AE, we dont have to compete with DOGE at all. Just get them all to start trading DOGE inside of AE without worry about centralized exchanges. What does a shiba like the most? DOGE! Lets give DOGE community the ability to exchange DOGE inside of AE. Lets make doing that the BEST way to trade DOGE.

    Imagine all the shiba's trading all that DOGE using NXT?

    DOGE is NXT's best friend

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    February 13, 2014, 06:34:27 PM
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    Quote from: jl777 on February 13, 2014, 06:31:44 PM
    Quote from: Passion_ltc on February 13, 2014, 04:19:03 PM
    Nxt is growing quickly the last few days.  Shocked


    Nice to see. I hope that the price stays low until march.
    Now that it is bobsled Thursday at olympics and all the clients coming out at the same time, I sold most all my DOGE and bought more NXT. I guess I should have done this yesterday Sad

    By March, we will have so much more end user features for NXT that I doubt we will see prices this low. If it werent for the MtGox BTC disaster, we probably would be over .0001 now, but when BTC is sick, all cryptos suffer.

    By March, we have half a dozen easy to use clients, even web based. AE where you can trade all other cryptos. Automated gateways to avoid all the exchange nightmares. Possibly zeronet (testnet for NXTcash), rumors of NXT VM.

    Oh, I almost forgot, we will also have marketing campaigns that have been waiting for end user friendly clients, tipbot campaigns, etc, etc.

    NXT and DOGE will be climbing the ladder together on coinmarketcap. I really like the wolfe graphics. NXT represents the second gen crypo tech and DOGE is the second gen crypto marketing.

    Once we get automated gateway for DOGE -> AE, we dont have to compete with DOGE at all. Just get them all to start trading DOGE inside of AE without worry about centralized exchanges. What does a shiba like the most? DOGE! Lets give DOGE community the ability to exchange DOGE inside of AE. Lets make doing that the BEST way to trade DOGE.

    Imagine all the shiba's trading all that DOGE using NXT?

    DOGE is NXT's best friend

    James

    +1

    So let's invite them =)

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    February 13, 2014, 06:40:49 PM
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    Quote from: pinarello on February 13, 2014, 06:24:36 PM

    wazup with testnet? doesnt work at all.!

    testnet is working really fine here.

    loading LukyMiner Corp. asset in ~3 sec. (haven't count but i guess +50 api calls, nothing buffered, allways fresh and complete)

    http://nxtexplorer.com/download/ae-002.png

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    February 13, 2014, 06:40:57 PM
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    Quote from: jl777 on February 13, 2014, 06:31:44 PM
    Quote from: Passion_ltc on February 13, 2014, 04:19:03 PM
    Nxt is growing quickly the last few days.  Shocked


    Nice to see. I hope that the price stays low until march.
    Now that it is bobsled Thursday at olympics and all the clients coming out at the same time, I sold most all my DOGE and bought more NXT. I guess I should have done this yesterday Sad

    By March, we will have so much more end user features for NXT that I doubt we will see prices this low. If it werent for the MtGox BTC disaster, we probably would be over .0001 now, but when BTC is sick, all cryptos suffer.

    By March, we have half a dozen easy to use clients, even web based. AE where you can trade all other cryptos. Automated gateways to avoid all the exchange nightmares. Possibly zeronet (testnet for NXTcash), rumors of NXT VM.

    Oh, I almost forgot, we will also have marketing campaigns that have been waiting for end user friendly clients, tipbot campaigns, etc, etc.

    NXT and DOGE will be climbing the ladder together on coinmarketcap. I really like the wolfe graphics. NXT represents the second gen crypo tech and DOGE is the second gen crypto marketing.

    Once we get automated gateway for DOGE -> AE, we dont have to compete with DOGE at all. Just get them all to start trading DOGE inside of AE without worry about centralized exchanges. What does a shiba like the most? DOGE! Lets give DOGE community the ability to exchange DOGE inside of AE. Lets make doing that the BEST way to trade DOGE.

    Imagine all the shiba's trading all that DOGE using NXT?

    DOGE is NXT's best friend

    James

    It seems to me when the price rises more, NXT is more attractive

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    February 13, 2014, 06:41:51 PM
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    Quote from: jl777 on February 13, 2014, 06:31:44 PM
    Quote from: Passion_ltc on February 13, 2014, 04:19:03 PM
    Nxt is growing quickly the last few days.  Shocked


    Nice to see. I hope that the price stays low until march.
    Now that it is bobsled Thursday at olympics and all the clients coming out at the same time, I sold most all my DOGE and bought more NXT. I guess I should have done this yesterday Sad

    By March, we will have so much more end user features for NXT that I doubt we will see prices this low. If it werent for the MtGox BTC disaster, we probably would be over .0001 now, but when BTC is sick, all cryptos suffer.

    By March, we have half a dozen easy to use clients, even web based. AE where you can trade all other cryptos. Automated gateways to avoid all the exchange nightmares. Possibly zeronet (testnet for NXTcash), rumors of NXT VM.

    Oh, I almost forgot, we will also have marketing campaigns that have been waiting for end user friendly clients, tipbot campaigns, etc, etc.

    NXT and DOGE will be climbing the ladder together on coinmarketcap. I really like the wolfe graphics. NXT represents the second gen crypo tech and DOGE is the second gen crypto marketing.

    Once we get automated gateway for DOGE -> AE, we dont have to compete with DOGE at all. Just get them all to start trading DOGE inside of AE without worry about centralized exchanges. What does a shiba like the most? DOGE! Lets give DOGE community the ability to exchange DOGE inside of AE. Lets make doing that the BEST way to trade DOGE.

    Imagine all the shiba's trading all that DOGE using NXT?

    DOGE is NXT's best friend

    James

    Sounds great.

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    February 13, 2014, 06:42:04 PM
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    Quote from: artik123 on February 13, 2014, 06:24:06 PM
    Quote from: allwelder on February 13, 2014, 07:07:26 AM
    nxt.org news:
    the domain name nxt.org have been auctioned with 1,3537 USD recently on Sedo platform .
    http://news.domain.cn/html/yumingzixun/2014/0207/31292.html

    bougt by Nxt community?

    They declined my $1,000 offer three weeks ago. Maybe this was their trigger to auction it...

    "Thank you for contacting Pool.com customer service.

    I did submit your offer to our client but they've declined. They confirmed they do have plans to develop a site using this name and for that reason they have it valued at a higher amount. They did not provide any counter offer. "

    Liars Smiley

    Your offer was FAR to low. Wink It's a 3 letter domain which makes sense. Wink
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    February 13, 2014, 06:43:22 PM
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    Quote from: Jean-Luc on February 13, 2014, 06:10:02 PM
    Users of the javascript client will get a JSON notification when the deadline changes. Client developers using the Java API directly can register a listener to receive such notifications, just like it is done in User.java:

    Do you mean you will add some sort of HTML5 push notification support to the browser? That would be great!

    http://html5hacks.com/blog/2013/04/21/push-notifications-to-the-browser-with-server-sent-events/

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    February 13, 2014, 06:44:38 PM
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    Quote from: Damelon link=topic=345619.msg5124195#msg5124195
    How about: nemini confide (ne BCNext quidem)
    "Trust no one" (not even BCNext)
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