Yes, a limit of 80 000 words is fine with me. Enables enough for me spend a coffee fueled month pumping out something psychedelic and not hitting the word count wall - when I have the time!

I would be fine with 80k per month so that has my vote

If the vast majority of all shares are going to go to writing on devtome, that is going to water down the amounts allocated for hosting and for developers quite a bit.

I do not know if that is particularly important though, since bounties can be used to get stuff developed that might actually increase the value of the coins.

I still keep wondering though whether 1000 words is really 10 hours or 40 of hours of work, which is what one share normally apparently is expecting to be paying for.

When we hardly had any writers, and they were busy doing admin stuff, developing, or whatever so didn't even maybe get around to writing much, the dilution effect on the development and admin stipends wasn't so bad maybe, but if we are going to have maybe ten or twenty or thirty or more writers writing maybe ten or twenty or thirty (or much more) thousand words each in each round, that would start to put a big dent in admin and development stipends.

Just saying.

Disclosure: I get admin and developer stipends.

-MarkM-

EDIT: My anecdotal "impression" was that writing articles totally from scratch on the spot making them up as I went I was making probably about a share an hour, sure as heck not a share per ten to forty hours. Maybe it was really more like a share every two hours. But I dunno, I didn't put many hours in on articles but some rounds I got quite a few shares for them. (More than for admin plus developer but for maybe less hours put in.)

(I am a poor guesser of time though. Maybe sometimes way more hours went by than I noticed? Hmmm....)

Already posted before but it got buried under a bunch of posts:

I have another question. What exactly is eligible for a bounty? Any open source piece of software? What are the limits? Does it extend to software like a game? Thanks!

Appreciate the clarity. Not sure I know enough about how the system works yet to be voting on it so I'll go with everybody else's median, but will say I dont think any word limit is the issue at all. If somebody has written a book worth reading that's great. So is a short specific piece. The issue is the max share per individual (outside the work done for the project itself) but I realise this is difficult to administer.

I think one share per 5000 words is a bit steep - certainly puts me off submitting a lot of writing! Maybe we should just double the admin shares?  

This is getting pretty complex and I'm thinking maybe UnthinkingBit has had the best approach, just letting the system (for the main part) roll as it is.

I think the word limit tackles most of the issues - maybe we can vote on increasing other shares for dev and admin work? Everyone has vested interests though (even if they don't mean to) so it is hard to remain objective and to be honest I am not sure what the best course of action is.

or just post a link to it...? Seriously though, while I guess it hasn't been a problem in a limited community I think the max per person writing share is a real issue and not addressing it will prove to have been counterproductive later, especially wrt attracting new info/work worth reading and continuing to appeal to the development side (not my forte at all), but most others don't think so and so I'm happy to go with the flow.

I seriously think that we should hope devcoins will become valuable enough that we can use the standard "one fifth of a share" unit of measure to reward writing.

I get this from it taking maybe an hour or two to write a thousand words and maybe taking an hour or two to host something that needs some admin stuff done. Or lets say, one hour of work's worth of actual money to actually pay for a machine to host it on and bandwidth for it and one hour of actual work running the thing.

So one fifth of a share seems to maybe be about an hour or two of work, and even then only work that is directly on project gets to do only ten hours for a full share, tangential external stuff a share is forty hours!

I do not know how much coins would need to be worth, or really I guess, how much one-fifth shares would have to be worth, for this to be "reasonable". Recently an off the cuff guestimate of share value by Unthinkingbit put one fifth of a share at $30. Is not $30 a decent wage for an hour or two of promoting your own ouvre or genre or whatever you want by writing about it on a hopefully someday influential wiki?

Heck, some people would pay that much or more to be permitted to post their own work original research anything on an influential wiki!

The hosting one gets 1/5 of a share for one has to actually be paying for bandwidth and hosting, not just doing some work-of-your-own-choosing promoting anything-of-your-own choosing...

Are things we are paying about $30 a month to have someone host and admin things they can run as a freebie on a $5/month webhosting-only account or things they'd need a $30/month virtual machine for? (In the latter case the share merely covers the machine, so their real pay is just that they get to use any spare capacity of the machine for their own uses if it does end up actually having any spare capacity...)

EDIT: Example: a "stable" node. I read recently a bitcoin node crashed because it only had 4 gigs of RAM for its virtual machine. It needed to upgrade its RAM. The sheer number of connections a backbone/fallback/DNSseed node gets eats lots of RAM. A more than four gigs of RAM virtual machine costs how much per month typically? We give one fifth of a share for maintaining one of these nodes...

(Currently number of connections is low, so currently that maybe be fine. But bitcoin nodes can find four gigs of RAM is not enough. SO if we grow well, we can expect our core nodes to need more than four gigs of RAM each.)

Oh and bandwidth! How much for a server that *really* has *genuinely* "unlimited" bandwidth to supply thousands of nodes with copies of the entire blockchain?

-MarkM-

These are good points - why not just increase the shares for admin work etc instead of decreasing shares for writing? I was made an admin this month and I can relate that writing seems to be an easier way to earn DVC, but on the other hand Devtome does not have a lot of writers yet so it may be best to keep writers well incentivized at this stage while we build a critical mass.