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    • hobojoe
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    June 01, 2011, 10:38:57 PM
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    I just installed Tor and I have it running in Firefox but it's going incredibly slow, taking up to 30 seconds to load a single page.  I'm also getting a "Proxy error: 502 Server dropped connection" message when I try to connect to Silk Road.  I don't really care about running Tor outside of getting to Silk Road but if anyone can help with one/both of these issues I'd appreciate it, and if Tor normally runs this slowly then at least I know it's not just me.

    P.S. if it matters I'm running at least 18mbps when I just checked on Chrome, so it's not just a slightly slowed connection.

    Edit: never mind, it took about six tries but I managed to connect.  If anyone still wants to explain the slow Tor issue that's fine but not necessary

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    June 01, 2011, 10:46:14 PM
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    Quote from: hobojoe on June 01, 2011, 10:38:57 PM
    I just installed Tor and I have it running in Firefox but it's going incredibly slow, taking up to 30 seconds to load a single page.  I'm also getting a "Proxy error: 502 Server dropped connection" message when I try to connect to Silk Road.  I don't really care about running Tor outside of getting to Silk Road but if anyone can help with one/both of these issues I'd appreciate it, and if Tor normally runs this slowly then at least I know it's not just me.

    P.S. if it matters I'm running at least 18mbps when I just checked on Chrome, so it's not just a slightly slowed connection.

    Two things.

    1) At this particular moment, the entire Internet seems to be bogged down.

    2) Tor does run slower than surfing normally, by it's nature.  That's unavoidable.  But you should still be able to get there if your tor client has reported that a circut has been established.  It can take a while for a new install to establish a first circut.
    "The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

    - Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'

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    June 02, 2011, 12:42:51 AM
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    i cant really access silk road idk how to configure vidalia for my tor service please help, nor do i know how i can access the site

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    June 02, 2011, 12:52:17 AM
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    Trying to configure vidalia without some networking/security knowledge is asking for trouble. Download browser bundle and use that.
    Site is at: http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/
    But do yourself a favor - don't do anything stupid, like buying stuff, before you learn about anonymity online. Just because you downloaded a piece of software doesn't mean you are under the radar. I bet there will be arrests after these resent articles

    Hidden wiki might be of interest too:
    http://kpvz7ki2v5agwt35.onion/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

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    June 02, 2011, 02:40:58 AM
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    registering with Silk Road was the easy part.  I can't figure out how to buy bitcoins, and i've tried most of the recommended exchange sites.  there has to be a simple way for me to use paypal or my bank account for purchases, no?

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    June 02, 2011, 02:44:52 AM
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    Quote from: coolnigh on June 02, 2011, 02:40:58 AM
    registering with Silk Road was the easy part.  I can't figure out how to buy bitcoins, and i've tried most of the recommended exchange sites.  there has to be a simple way for me to use paypal or my bank account for purchases, no?

    ebay usually has one auction going. 

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330568092684&category=169305&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619#ht_500wt_1156

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    June 02, 2011, 02:46:28 AM
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    Quote from: coolnigh on June 02, 2011, 02:40:58 AM
    registering with Silk Road was the easy part.  I can't figure out how to buy bitcoins, and i've tried most of the recommended exchange sites.  there has to be a simple way for me to use paypal or my bank account for purchases, no?

    It is only when try to escape, that you will know you were not free.
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    June 02, 2011, 02:49:12 AM
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    Quote from: coolnigh on June 02, 2011, 02:40:58 AM
    registering with Silk Road was the easy part.  I can't figure out how to buy bitcoins, and i've tried most of the recommended exchange sites.  there has to be a simple way for me to use paypal or my bank account for purchases, no?

    mtgox accepts bank wires and Dwolla.
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    June 02, 2011, 02:49:44 AM
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    if you do not care about crypto, change .onion for .tor2web.com:
    http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/
    will be
    http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz..tor2web.com/
    with this change, you not need tor or anything else, but you loss the crypto.

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    June 02, 2011, 03:56:50 AM
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    Quote from: brunopio on June 02, 2011, 02:49:44 AM
    if you do not care about crypto, change .onion for .tor2web.com:
    http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/
    will be
    http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz..tor2web.com/
    with this change, you not need tor or anything else, but you loss the crypto.

    This is not recommended at all for anything other than browsing. You lose all privacy, as all data sent back from Silk Road as well as all data you enter is transmitted in clear text to the proxy. They would have your name, address, bitcoin address, items purchased, etc.

    Do not use this if you are buying from Silk Road.

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    June 02, 2011, 04:27:01 AM
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    Seconded regarding use of Tor2web. It appears that anybody can set up a little VPS and become part of the tor2web thing, and then they can capture all the traffic passing through that node on the way into Tor.

    Using tor2web is not recommended for anything that might be remotely sensitive.
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    June 02, 2011, 09:23:15 AM
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    Thanks guys, very useful posts. I'm new to bitcoin and Thor.

    I was wondering where I should go to study up on securing my internet and stuff.

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    June 02, 2011, 10:42:20 AM
    Last edit: June 11, 2011, 10:35:46 AM by Marcus
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    Quote from: ron on June 02, 2011, 02:44:52 AM
    ebay usually has one auction going.  

    Thanks, Ron, for posting link to that auction on eBay.  I was just in time, and won that auction.  So now am the proud owner of my first 10 Bitcoins.  

    Perhaps it will help other newcomers (like myself), and to avoid getting off topic here, I posted some thoughts about a beginner (me) using eBay for Bitcoin on another thread: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=10982.0  

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    June 02, 2011, 10:49:23 AM
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    Quote from: coolnigh on June 02, 2011, 02:40:58 AM
    I can't figure out how to buy bitcoins, and i've tried most of the recommended exchange sites.  there has to be a simple way for me to use paypal or my bank account for purchases, no?

    Not paypal, no. They've forbidden the selling of bitcoins. And even for those who don't care, selling bitcoins for paypal is somehow dangerous since paypal transfers are reversible while bitcoin transfers are not.

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    June 02, 2011, 10:57:39 AM
    Last edit: June 11, 2011, 10:35:22 AM by Marcus
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    Quote from: caveden on June 02, 2011, 10:49:23 AM
    Not paypal, no. They've forbidden the selling of bitcoins. And even for those who don't care, selling bitcoins for paypal is somehow dangerous since paypal transfers are reversible while bitcoin transfers are not.

    Thank you, Caveden, for posting about that.  Important to know.  I see this thread topic is devoted to Silk Road feedback.  Is there a thread on this forum devoted to the PayPal situation?   Since I just used PayPal to pay for Bitcoins a few minutes ago -- via an eBay auction -- I would be most interested in such a thread topic.  

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    June 02, 2011, 11:16:08 AM
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    If you bought bitcoins with paypal you should be fine, it's the seller who take some risks.
    You'll find many threads about paypal here. Smiley

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    June 02, 2011, 08:58:21 PM
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    I recently found out about Silk Road through an article on Kotaku, which contained quite specific instructions on how to use it...then I realized that this "news" had spread to quite a few other websites. Is anyone else worried about the potential attention this might attract?

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    June 02, 2011, 08:59:43 PM
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    Quote from: hans030390 on June 02, 2011, 08:58:21 PM
    I recently found out about Silk Road through an article on Kotaku, which contained quite specific instructions on how to use it...then I realized that this "news" had spread to quite a few other websites. Is anyone else worried about the potential attention this might attract?

    Um, no?
    "The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

    - Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'

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    June 02, 2011, 09:23:37 PM
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    It seems like the site is down?

    I'm running TOR fine, and could access the site yesterday, but now I get a:

    '504 Connect to www.ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion:80 failed: General SOCKS server failure'

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    June 02, 2011, 09:32:27 PM
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    Quote from: omey on June 02, 2011, 09:23:37 PM
    It seems like the site is down?

    I'm running TOR fine, and could access the site yesterday, but now I get a:

    '504 Connect to www.ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion:80 failed: General SOCKS server failure'

    I take it you run Windoze?  This is a local error.
    "The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

    - Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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