The tech behind DASH is flawed.

Ever tried to mix a few DASH? It takes hours. Without the "liquidity providers" (weak spot!) it would take days...
Your mixing on centralized masternodes (not anonymous)
Your masternodes are basically making the richer more rich. Fair?
InstantX isn't secure. You need to wait for block confrmations to be sure it won't be reversed.

I'm eagerly waiting for the Evolution paper, so we can all check the claims evan makes...
At the moment, he is pumping vaporware.

 why this concerns you ? is this help Monero growing? Do you really think that to discredit DASH will help MONERO?

I agree, but you don't go on stage and start selling your idea before it's implemented.
We aren't talking about shares in a company here, we are talking about currency.

1) idea
2) write & code
3) peer review & test
4) implement
5) tell people about it

Don't start telling people about your idea (and try to get them to buy/pump your coin) before even releasing a paper.

the thing with a cryptocurrency is:
if you are selling it before testing the security and something goes wrong, a lot of people will loose money...
So start selling it after testing, that is the logical sequence.

edit: yeah, I know, businesses can fail also...
But cryptocurrencies can at least be tested and reviewed before launching it (or launching new features)

What you're proposing is the academic way of doing it, and they are using the startup way of doing it. Both approaches are fine, and both require some sort of funding. Since they've adapted the virtual corporation slogan (and there are not really any research grants they could apply for), it was kind of obvious that they'd rather take the startup route.

But of course they still should release information in a timely and concise manner, just floating a photo of a slide with no context and some scattered hints in forums doesn't cut it.

Ahahahh really funny. I got the chance to read what they're saying because all the quoting and WoW they really live in a very very small world...
I'm not even sure if they can't understand the actual Dash source code or are just circle jerking their agenda... amazing  

Out of curiosity: What is the difference between 2 and 4 in your list?

No, I saw it. But it didn't really add much to the photo we had already seen. There were a couple of hints in the QA video, if you had the patience to sit through it, but nothing I'd call substantial

dnaleor. I think you need something spelled out to you to save you from making a complete a*s of yourself on these forums for what remains of the year.

Do you see this chart below ? It is a market depth chart.



Its significance to this discussion is that every person on that chart represented by the blue and orange lines, values that asset differently. There is no agreement in the market whatsoever except for the last two solitary traders where the lines meet. The only difference between Market-Depth-Resident-A and dnaleor is that MDR-A does not go round behaving like a religious zealot trying to get the rest of the market to share his position on that chart.

You want to turn this from an exercise in asset valuation into a debate over legitimacy ?

Fine. I’d be happy to because in my opinion there is far more of a basis for calling Monero “scam” than Dash with its faux claims at anonymity, fungibility, privacy and modernity when in fact all you have is obscurity and commercial obscolescence. The fact that I don’t go posting antagonistic attacks and personally maligning known individuals from that project is (a) because I can exercise my opinions in the market and (b) because I understand they are my own priorities and others may legitimately value them differently. (Hence the existence of a market depth profile illustrated above).

In that regard, be advised that there's nothing in your post that isn't already understood by most interested parties around here, it’s just that they are priced in to our valuation (many times over, thanks to its over exposure by now).

You’re concerned that “new investors” won’t know about the instamine ? Well I’m concerned that new investors in all of Dash’s competitors don’t know about their failings as well and I consider them to be far more critical (to the future at least) than Dash's instamine is.

Please do yourself a favour and stop behaving like a spoilt child who can’t get his way. Either deliver an equivalent product to Dash for us to invest in, with identical technical properties, roadmap, managed by Evan Duffield, free of any launch issues or pick yourself a place on that market depth chart and live with it like everyone else. More importantly, please afford others that courtesy for it was the investors that instructed the developer to continue the project and not restart it. It is the investors who are the authority on whether they were ‘scammed’ or not and it is the investors who will determine what the ‘price’ of the launch failings were relative to the asset’s perceived strengths.

Finally, it’s important for markets to have full information. But 5-10 people spamming every known media channel available to them with hate filled, personalised malignant bile or even hammering away at one fact to the exclusion of all others is not a service to markets.

It is a vendetta, and you are to be condemned for it.