Warlock clearly.

Sorry I just remember thinking the name was retarded at 12. Shocking that it hasn't changed but nor has the OS.

dark need setup +1 raze

I imagine most of those supporting extra fees for the MasterNodes are MN owners or those with the resources available to setupone or more MNs. DRK is not some consumable good with apreciable craftsmanship of superior components. If DRK is to become widespread, its main purpose is to be used as money. A medium of exchange. I think we all know how easy is to copy code when it is open source and most would agree that this project won't be successful if it the DrakSend(+) source code doesn't become availble. In this case it could be copied and the lack of anonymity fees being touted as a feature of another coin. Most people do not need to pay extra to exhange cash or gold for other goods in exchange for more anonymity.

That said, I see where you are both coming from and I think having a fee for greater anonymity could be a good way of avoiding blockchain bloat. But not if the standard option is a sub-par anonymity solution (I'm not saying it will be) and you need to pay fees for a reasonable level of anonymity.

edit: substituted in reasonable for higher

I concur, it is the stupidest idea ever to prevent mass adoption of the feature, and the coin.

If fat there is indeed in the blockchain, it could be deal with at the later stage but we need need the feature/coin to be massively used FIRST before putting some fence in place. Pure greed motivates those suggesting otherwise.

EDIT: going back a little further, I see that some people suggested to pay some extra money to obtain additional depth in terms of mixing and so more anonymity. It is still a bad idea, DRK protocol regarding mixing coins at MN should settle at a level considered as good enough (like the 6 confirmations) and stick with it. Additional complexity in terms of charging transactions and the fact people will misunderstand the scheme  are not good things at all ("DRK is scam to enrich MN owners, blabla shitcoins provides free guaranteed anonymity for everyone however blabla ... ... Ad nauseum" - we don't want that)

Well the primary idea was discussion on enhancing the anonymity levels utilizing more MNs and assess any impacts in terms of bloat etc by going this route. Fees are not really the focus and the concern is understandable but derailing the main point.

Let's get darksend+ out there and built upon and adopted.
Start thinking of broader adoption targets. The 10 Drk limit lifting is seriously good news and means we can really promote the coin.

Then we can start arguing (discussing)  Darksend Super +++
(which evan will probably make anyway without bloat or further fees)

Two things to take away from that exchange:

Extra fees for better features is a bad idea.  It's not going to happen.

Should it become necessary for the safety of the network, we could look at ways to discourage malicious, intentional bloating of the blockchain by making it costly to do so.

Everything else was just people thinking out loud.

Another serious advantage we have over other coins at the moment is that we are transparent in our methods.

We actually explain how it works. As opposed to most of the others who are still "totes anon promise coming soon.."