Hi BadBear,

If you have a minute I just wanted to make sure I understand this forum rule a little better. I read most of the thread, but again wanted to make sure my understanding is correct.

Asking us to put a link or promote a coin in our signature is ok as long as it doesn't ask us to post "insubstantial" posts as well correct? Or is it any type of giveaway period, unless the giveaway instructions are on another forum or site?

From a user standpoint. We can add anything to our signature as long as we don't promote the giveaway specifically? For example if the giveaway is posted somewhere other than bitcointalk, but asks us to put the coin and our address in our signature this is ok correct?

Last thing I see "bounties" all the time. So if the coins are given to do any type of work including, other than posting on bitcointalk, that is ok as well correct?

I know I read it in several posts already, but I also feel a warning would be more fair, even with a short time frame to remove the violation before banning. I do understand and agree with the reasoning for the giveaway rules in general, just not instant banning without a chance to change the mistake, unless of course there is a history of the user ignoring the rule.

Thank you for you time and Have a Good Day

The most common mistake I see with signatures is stuff like "Add this to your signature then post here so I can verify", which is not allowed. You'd have to be more specific about what you mean wrt bounties, but that sounds okay.

+1000 man, well said!!

There is so much crap going on here on this forum that is being ignored everyday and that is so much worse than "giveaway spam".  Taking giveaways away altogether is really stupid I think, this is a HUGE thing in crypto and we ALL like them in some fashion or another.  How about attacking theses issues by account age and or trust.  Everyday brand new accounts are allowed to be created, these are the ones causing 99% of all the spam!

For instance, it is flat out ridiculous to allow a brand new member to launch a new coin from an account they created that day!!!!!  I bet if you look at the accounts spamming all the relentless and ridiculous giveaways in your above picture, you will find they are almost all new accounts.  People are allowed to come in a disrupt any community they want, posting lies and even death threats and we want to take away something like giveaways which is a necessity in promoting coins.  Like many others have mentioned here, this crap makes me want another forum to take over the "king of crypto" title!

Seriously, BCT is by far the biggest and best crypto forum online......but doing shit like this, that will not last for long.  Banning one of the most generous and helpful members on this forum is BAD and flat out wrong man!!  Jarvis did an AMAZING thing for this forum and its members dude........he is helping people and trying to do good by all the members here and you ban him?!

Do you not care what YOUR users want and think, do you not care EVERYONE thinks what you did to Jarivs and the HonorCoin community was wrong?!  We are all asking you to re-evaluate your decision because it was WAY too harsh when considering the man and the action that caused this!!  Personally, and I see I am definitely not alone in this.......you guys need to re-think your approach to cutting down the spam, taking giveaways altogether I think will be the death of this forum.......it may take a while as you have gained an enormous user base, but giveaways are so detrimental in promoting crypto currencies.......people WILL find a way, even if that means taking their business elsewhere!

Here is another thing to consider, this forum has MANY MANY members who can ONLY participate in certain coins that offer other means of distribution that does not involve trading or mining........giveaways offer the opportunity to bring new people to crypto and are the only way many can even participate!  I'm sorry, but this was a horrible decision and needs to be addressed in a different way!

You can't start on-site alt giveaways, that includes but is not limited to giveaways in alt coin announcement threads, dedicated alt coin giveaway threads, application to IPOs by posting in the thread, distribution threads, threads in the alt coin section paying for opinions, advice or anything posted in thread, etc. Want to do an alt coin giveaway? Post it on another website or another forum (people have to apply there) and leave a link on the coin thread.

In your case, as I understood, the user was banned for breaking this part of the rule:


That includes payment for the sig since the person must apply on the forum thread to get it.

BTW, the thread was made by theymos.

Just to clarify I don't want to say that what Jarvis did was right. I want to say he did a mistake, he will say sorry, and this thing is done. The whole community stands behind him as you can see at https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/711805.100

But there you can see on the last pages again someone who spams our community thread and who gets nothing. But Jarvis gets 10 days?

I am loosing a lot of faith in this board and I am not alone.

Cheers!

Please don't be to proud to say your points are right or wrong! As I said I am happy to discuss, but atm its no dialog its just follow the "strict stupid" (My opinion)  rules.

1. Make a website make an account on another forum.
2. Write in that site/forum that you will pay some amount of coin X if they put a sig in their Bitcointalk profile.
3. Tell them they can apply to that sig campaign by entering the BCT username and their wallet address into the form you've made on that site or by posting their BCT username and their address on that other forum.
4. Put a link to that giveaway on the thread.

Alternative way (if the giveaway is a part of a coin ANN):

1. On the coin announcement thread on BCT tell people that they can get coins for putting a signature in their profile.
2. Tell them they have to send you a PM with their coin address.
3. DO NOT credit anyone posting their address or applying by posting on the thread. Report such posts to the moderators.

These methods I just explained don't require that much hassle (especially the alternative one), don't break the rules and don't cause spam.

Unfortunately I highly doubt they will lift sooner than 10 days, this thread is jam packed with people complaining of a similar ban to a person that was unjustly banned for almost the same exact thing.  They seem to be very tight about this new policy and are not budging on it even with MANY of their users saying it was flat out wrong.

Hope I'm wrong in your case though man, I know you did not have mal intent or broke the rules intentionally.

Hello Badbear, can you answer please??? thanks

Jarivs's account is still banned?  When was it supposed to expire, a few days ago right?