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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 13, 2014, 04:34:15 AM

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Quote from: tmu on May 10, 2014, 11:38:46 PM

Quote from: TRN1062 on May 10, 2014, 10:45:12 PM

Thanks for all the Hard work WK I appreciate all you do... I do have one question however. I have not received any NMC since March? Are we not mining NMC anymore or is there some reason I no longer receive them? I did receive some 34 or so payouts prior to them suddenly ceasing.

Just looking for a little clarity on what is going on with NMC

T.

Somehow those not so patient with NMC thingy are also laziest readers.
wizkid57 has been talking about manual payout this weekend, most likely only BTC queue.
But NMCs are still coming, soon as WK has time for that.
Lets try to have one page without someone asking about NMC.

-tmu

Quote from: wizkid057 on May 09, 2014, 04:49:21 PM

Quote from: baddw on May 09, 2014, 04:25:21 PM

at least once in the past, wk sent "bonus" NMC (from the pool's leftover NMC) when processing a manual NMC payout, thereby paying miners more than 105% PPS.

I have a super secret plan to do the same for some of the super patient soon also... but its a secret so, shhh. Grin

tmu- So 2+ months of no payout is not patient enough. It is not as if I asked after a week or even 2 its been 2 months so I thought Id ask. I have seen other ask but never have seen a response. I figured maybe the responses had been made privately or that perhaps I missed them because yes I unlike you do not spend every hour of every day on this or any other board. I have other things going on so yes I may have missed a reply. However tmu I will say that I totally support Eligius and WK It is my ONLY mining pool and always will be. I have no intention of leaving I just had a question.

I put it to you tmu that if you have nothing positive to contribute to a discussion or an answer to the question asked you should butt out of the conversation and just keep your comments to yourself. If you know of an answer that has been posted previously you could have simply provided a link to that answer or quoted it but instead you have to bash and flame others. That contributes NOTHING at all.

Now I will get off my soapbox.

If Wizkid or LukeJR or someone else has an answer for my original question regarding the NMC payouts... I would appreciate it.

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 13, 2014, 05:19:59 AM

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Quote from: TRN1062 on May 13, 2014, 04:34:15 AM

Quote from: tmu on May 10, 2014, 11:38:46 PM

Quote from: TRN1062 on May 10, 2014, 10:45:12 PM

Quote from: wizkid057 on May 09, 2014, 04:49:21 PM

Quote from: baddw on May 09, 2014, 04:25:21 PM

at least once in the past, wk sent "bonus" NMC (from the pool's leftover NMC) when processing a manual NMC payout, thereby paying miners more than 105% PPS.

I have a super secret plan to do the same for some of the super patient soon also... but its a secret so, shhh. Grin

Namecoin merged mining continues as always. Namecoin payouts are currently suspended but will be re-started soon, starting with a back-payment all the way back through March sometime (?). At that time, an attacker somehow managed an insertion attack which changed all of the Namecoin payout addresses to a single address. I believe the attacker walked away with 5-10 BTC worth of NMC, although I could be mis-remembering. This did not affect Bitcoin payouts at all, only Namecoin. It is all documented here in this thread. After this attack, Namecoin payouts were suspended indefinitely until wk could find the time to implement a new solution.

BTC/XCP 11596GYYq5WzVHoHTmYZg4RufxxzAGEGBX
DRK XvFhRFQwvBAmFkaii6Kafmu6oXrH4dSkVF
Eligius Payouts/CPPSRB Explained I am not associated with Eligius in any way. I just think that it is a good pool with a cool payment system

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 13, 2014, 11:06:01 AM

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Question,

How do I arrange that after clicking on "Toggle Graphing of Maximum Reward" I am able to see my 3 miners?

Now I fill in my wallet as user. So how do I arrange that?

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 13, 2014, 12:43:31 PM

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Quote from: yelloyello on May 13, 2014, 11:06:01 AM

Question,

How do I arrange that after clicking on "Toggle Graphing of Maximum Reward" I am able to see my 3 miners?

Now I fill in my wallet as user. So how do I arrange that?

http://eligius.st/~gateway/faq-page/faq#t9n72

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." ~George Bernard Shaw

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 13, 2014, 02:35:46 PM

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Quote from: yelloyello on May 13, 2014, 11:06:01 AM

Question,

How do I arrange that after clicking on "Toggle Graphing of Maximum Reward" I am able to see my 3 miners?

Now I fill in my wallet as user. So how do I arrange that?

I don't think the balance graph can do that, only the hashrate graph...

Decentralize EVERYTHING!

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 13, 2014, 05:16:52 PM

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Just read the solution, thanx!

As I can see, it works only for the hashrate. But knowing the hashrate I can do the math.

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 13, 2014, 08:34:57 PM

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Still waiting for this payout: 2014-05-13 18:57:17 (G) 0.06033711 BTC

will it be done manually?

nxt: NXT-2V7G-C8BY-KTYY-CAHNU * btc: 19UcQHepGvXb2fDcAMBJo1a3iduqBNXaGw * byte: XJBP46RQ7OZ6KKY4IXKL73VQBDKRIYJ4

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 13, 2014, 08:54:19 PM

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Quote from: zuqka on May 13, 2014, 08:34:57 PM

Still waiting for this payout: 2014-05-13 18:57:17 (G) 0.06033711 BTC

will it be done manually?

What does it say on your status page?

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 13, 2014, 08:59:51 PM
Last edit: May 13, 2014, 09:19:00 PM by zuqka

#2049

Quote from: ProfMac on May 13, 2014, 08:54:19 PM

Quote from: zuqka on May 13, 2014, 08:34:57 PM

Still waiting for this payout: 2014-05-13 18:57:17 (G) 0.06033711 BTC

will it be done manually?

What does it say on your status page?

What you mean by status page? I copy it from status page but funds are not sent to my btc add:

zuqka - 19UcQHepGvXb2fDcAMBJo1a3iduqBNXaGw

I guess you mean this stats:
Block hash:   000000000000000076d46db6cabd592e62f89b346b8e05a79313d2fcd6289155
View on Blockchain.info - View on Blockexplorer.com
Height:   300583
Previous Block hash:   000000000000000057b8f4f82da5840d780d165611e1c7e641c13a2e1153d16b
Merkle root:   2c0dbdd558fe1a4b6946709eb9fc7bd6583404f9450cb2dd036fa861193129b7
Difficulty:   8853416309.1278
Difficulty Achieved:   9252686269.4146 (104.51%)
Bits:   187c3053
Nonce:   1924d0c8
Version:   2
Time:   2014-05-13 18:57:17
Transactions:   635
Size:   350540 bytes
Coinbase transaction id:   ba0315d8976336b8f7fc2b7693b8ed63997815e2bfe310567234cae48a36711e
View on Blockchain.info - View on Blockexplorer.com
Addresses paid in coinbase tx:   147

On blockchain I am listed:
https://blockchain.info/tx/ba0315d8976336b8f7fc2b7693b8ed63997815e2bfe310567234cae48a36711e

solved, funds arrived at 20:57!

nxt: NXT-2V7G-C8BY-KTYY-CAHNU * btc: 19UcQHepGvXb2fDcAMBJo1a3iduqBNXaGw * byte: XJBP46RQ7OZ6KKY4IXKL73VQBDKRIYJ4

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 13, 2014, 09:17:30 PM

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This must have been asked here before -- where can I see my number of shelved shares?

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 13, 2014, 10:30:17 PM

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Quote from: phroyRov6 on May 13, 2014, 09:17:30 PM

This must have been asked here before -- where can I see my number of shelved shares?

I picked an account at random from the payout queue.

For that account, the calculation is (1 - 0.9821) * 947.24262104 ---> 16.95 BTC

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 14, 2014, 01:26:42 AM

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Quote from: baddw on May 13, 2014, 05:19:59 AM

Quote from: TRN1062 on May 13, 2014, 04:34:15 AM

Quote from: tmu on May 10, 2014, 11:38:46 PM

Quote from: TRN1062 on May 10, 2014, 10:45:12 PM

Quote from: wizkid057 on May 09, 2014, 04:49:21 PM

Quote from: baddw on May 09, 2014, 04:25:21 PM

at least once in the past, wk sent "bonus" NMC (from the pool's leftover NMC) when processing a manual NMC payout, thereby paying miners more than 105% PPS.

I have a super secret plan to do the same for some of the super patient soon also... but its a secret so, shhh. Grin

Thank you... I never saw anything about that and honestly did not have time to go back and read some 30 pages of archive. Its nice to know what is going on.

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 14, 2014, 02:16:42 PM

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Hi, I am sorry if this has been already asked but a naive search couldn't find anything.

Can someone tell me how the fees are distributed and what is the "Eligius Payout Change Aggregation" address?

I am trying to understand how the fees work and how it is possible that the payout qeue has grown from 1 block to 8 in less than 3 days.

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 14, 2014, 02:54:59 PM

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Quote from: frisco on May 14, 2014, 02:16:42 PM

As different addresses reach the payout threshold, they enter the payout queue. A small amount of mining that is spread among many addresses can bring all of them across the threshold, and thus make the payout queue large, both in the number of addresses, and the amount of payout.

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 14, 2014, 03:22:31 PM

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Quote from: ProfMac on May 14, 2014, 02:54:59 PM

Quote from: frisco on May 14, 2014, 02:16:42 PM

Even taking that into account that it should stabilize soon after the manual payout process. At every block 25BTC + fees? are awarded for every block and 25BTC+fees are paid, some people with previous pending balances can reach the threshold but after the manual payout a lot of users pending balance will be 0 (indeed the majority, right now with 8 blocks there are over a thousand address in the qeue and just 5500 hashing accounts, this weekend with 60 blocks in the qeue, almost everyone should have been in the qeue).

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 14, 2014, 03:38:08 PM

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Noob question: What does the Shares Rewarded means? Luck? I'm having less than 100% and I want to know why.

https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/4353171.0

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 14, 2014, 03:48:46 PM

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Quote from: frisco on May 14, 2014, 03:22:31 PM

Quote from: ProfMac on May 14, 2014, 02:54:59 PM

Quote from: frisco on May 14, 2014, 02:16:42 PM

The question is, what does "stable" look like. Large numbers of addresses enter the queue from relatively small recent earnings. Many of these have had a long time elapse since their last payout, and they get put at the top of the queue.

One of my accounts has almost 2 BTC in the unpaid shares (I forget their name for these). A few lucky blocks will pay those unpaid shares to me. There are several things going on. It would be interesting to write a program to model "steady state" using realistic account data. That data is pretty available from Eligius.

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Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread)

May 14, 2014, 04:16:36 PM

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Quote from: RoadStress on May 14, 2014, 03:38:08 PM

Noob question: What does the Shares Rewarded means? Luck? I'm having less than 100% and I want to know why.

You will always have less than 100%, unless the pool gets extremely lucky (or you are extremely lucky with your timing). It is impossible to have more than 100%, even if you or the pool gets extremely lucky. It correlates with luck, but not entirely. Even with normal-to-good luck, orphan blocks will bring you down to 98% or so. In my time mining with Eligius, I ranged from a low of ~90% to a high of ~97%.

See link in my sig for an explanation of CPPSRB. Remember, the basis of CPPSRB is PPS (Pay Per Share). You will never be paid for more shares than you have actually submitted. If you want this possibility, you should switch to something different like a PPLNS pool.