Never heard from Jetwin after the post I quote below:
BOOKMAKER (Jetwin): "Our bonus TC contain standard points which can be found in TC of a number of companies. Here are just a few examples from bookies with SBR rating A- & A+:..."
" bookmaker.eu: All bonuses must comply with a 4-time rollover requirement before any withdrawal is made. BookMaker reserves the right to modify or terminate this promotion at any time without prior notice."
Can you tell me where to find this info on their website?
I see nothing about bonuses - none offered, no info on rollover.
They only appear to offer BetPoints, a loyalty program.
"betonline.ag: Player agrees not to request a withdrawal prior to meeting all stipulations, including rollover requirements. Bonuses are for recreational players. BetOnline reserves the right to deny and/or cancel bonuses and/or winnings from said bonuses if management determines a player to be non-recreational, an arbitrage bettor, a scalper, or part of a syndicate - without further explanation. BetOnline reserves the right to take away any bonus at any time without explanation."
BetOnline does have the above copy mixed into their terms.
It also states under the "Bonus" rules:
"12. Players that accept a bonus and do not wager any portion of the bonus, may request a withdrawal and have the bonus removed from their account."
However, I see no rules for what qualifies for rollover in the "Bonus" section of their rules.
In the "Freeplay" rules, it does give some guidelines:
"Free Plays can only be wagered on:
FOOTBALL (NFL NCAA CFL ARENA)
BASKETBALL (NBA NCAA WNBA)
MLB Major League Baseball
NHL
CRICKET
SOCCER
BOXING
UFC (MIXED MARTIAL ARTS)
TENNIS
Free Plays can be used only in the Sportsbook on straight bets, parlays and teasers (no round robins).
No point-buying is allowed.
Free Plays lose when a push or tie results."
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"When calculating rollover, we use the lower of the risk/reward value as the effective value. For example, if you bet $500 on Team A to win $450, and you bet $400 on Team B to win $350, and you bet $250 on Team C to win $50, the total action applied toward fulfilling the rollover requirement would be $850 ($450 + $350 + $50)."
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Contrast this to your rules - You will only count up to $75 per bet toward rollover; you don't count the lower of risk/reward of a bet but instead only accept bets with certain odds, etc.
Also, if I'm reading this correctly - the customer must bet the entire bonus amount in one single parlay bet, at least once , with additional requirements as to the odds that can be offered and simultaneous start times for the events parlayed.
Congratulations on coming up with the most onerous condition I've ever seen for a rollover!
I've never seen rules anywhere close to as difficult as yours are for completing a rollover.
Can you find another book with similar rules?
Is there any book in the Universe which requires the entire bonus amount to be wagered in one parlay?
But that's not enough for you - you then require only certain odds, and simultaneous start times for at least 2 of the events.
As you are well aware, the player is a favorite to lose the parlay and thus the entire bonus amount in that one bet.
But they are then committed to your book for the rollover, locking them in for a long time with your $75 rollover limit.
Ridiculous.
I'd also like to point out that your handle "BOOKMAKER" rather than "Jetwin" is confusing, since as you know there is a reputable online sportsbook named "Bookmaker".
It sounds from Bismarckbkk's post that Jetwin never changed their T&C, even though Jetwin ("BOOKMAKER") had posted "Some points indeed contain rather one-sided information and will be reconsidered during this week."
- but that Bismarckbkk individually negotiated some less onerous terms.
