Glad I bought SP30s and S2s. Both have broken even or will give me return on my initial investment. Monarchs? Glad I respected the rating system that is in place here. Following it saved me the negative consequences of ordering from BFL. I bet there are 100s more people that have taken the rating here and done the same.

It works. You can argue the semantics all you like. We all know that using that BFL rating when making a decision to avoid BFL, and companies like BFL, is the right choice and has already saved people money and frustration. The only reason Inaba is here is to cause issue with that effectiveness to sow doubt and confusion and Squeak is certainly adding to the uncertainty and confusion shame on him. Fortunately, Dogie is really beyond reproach even if there are disagreements about his methodology it still works very well with regards to helping consumers AVOID BFL and those who use the BFL playbook of lies and deceit.

Negative Rating Removed

Ya I feel retarded sorry Squeak 

BFLing and Twerking both are words that have something in common.

Both need to disappear from reality and our common vocabulary.

When you got noobs buying outdated Jalapenos from Tigerdirect for $350 and fat girls thinkin they sexy, there's something wrong with this world....

Au contraire, giimoozaabi! She's not twerking, but goxxing her over-size black poodle on the bed in front of her, doing such via infinite vision to boot.


There's been a many words and terms coin since the advent of the Bitcoin space (that term included), with Goxed and ICO (Initial Cryptocurrency Offering), to name just two, entering the scene. BFLing's been around for awhile. In fact, I'd phantom a guess that there's enough to compile a dictionary.

On a side note, another Monarch has been found in the wild. NSFW: Caution! do not click here if... (but it sure is pretty and would to see it hash up close)

....Something something stick my private key....empty my wallet.dat....something something fork my block chain....

Good find Gleb/PG!  Something moved in my datacenter, might have to see if the handicapped stall is free in my office first though.  

Not sure why I'm even going to jump into the middle of this, but while no one would rate BFL at the top of the list having them below HashFast, Black Arrow and AMT seems rather silly. I'm not sure how Hashfast and AMT can have 10/10 for miners delivered while BFL has 5/10, or AMT having a higher Ethics score than anyone.

Yeah, but HF delivered part of their batch 1, and haven't delivered anything since with no indication they'll ever ship anything again. AMT has delivered some (often incomplete and broken) units and has admitted they have no intention of delivering on the promised miner protection plan units, which is actually a larger number than the original orders. I don't disagree with BFL getting a 5/10, it is them being lower than the other companies that seems off. If someone held a gun to my head and told me I had to either buy a Monarch, X-3, BabyJet or AMT miner, I'd probably be sending my money to the first one as it's likely the only one I'd ever see anything in return.

I didn't disregard what you said, I agree that BFL should be a 5/10. Reread what I wrote, you have 10/10 for companies that have delivered a fraction of the hardware they should have with no indication that they ever will finish. Unless you're arguing that since it's time-weighted and though HF hasn't shipped anything in half a year they haven't actually tried to ship anything in that time, so they've shipped 100% of the product they planned on.