I doubt anyone would have to pay anyone anything to post the simple truth about Black Arrow.

Their customers are willing to do that free of charge, I assure you.....

Really its easy to have ZERO reports from ZERO customers.

just remember, this is what the actions are with the companies and actions to the consumers, at the present time. its not a all round thing since the day they started. Basically, dogie has marked BitFury as not doing any mining now, unless there is evidence that they are now, the score stays the same.

now the question i have for you, Spondoolies-Tech, is you have sold pre-orders, and them pre-orders are still in effect? do you still have customers that are waiting on orders? once they are filled out, and you're not selling anymore pre-orders, your score will change.

now, if you are going to claim you do not have anymore people waiting for orders, we would like to see that.

Just a disclaimer, I'm not following your side of the world Spondoolies-Tech, i don't know what you're doing, other then you have hardware that i'd never buy (way outside my price range). so i know nothing other then you do have people still in pre-order status.

Ah, i missed that F thing, fare enough.

i don't know what dogie thinks is the diffrence between  "F = Operates own mining farm" and "FF = Operates own large mining farm"

and no more pre-orders left for you, fare enough..

did you finalize the pre-orders last month or 2? that maybe why you still have that score, its past tense.
your score has increase since last time, so i wouldn’t complain, be better then the others, you will rise above them.

Question is, next lot of hardware you make, or you going to advertise and take orders before final construction? (aka pre-orders), or are you going to build a stock and sell them there and then?

Hell, at least you haven’t tested your miners on animals!

on the other hand, you could just ignore this whole thing and run your business without even consolidating this list, Test the miners on animals, sell everyone a bit of paper with "I O U MINER" on it, ignore everyone’s problems and sell the crappiest chunks of scrap, then call yourself the best company, and run off with everyone’s money till the feds come after you!

tl:dr, it was the preorders that wrecked your score and BitFury is on the way down

*Gasp* so you are testing on animals! :O

Right, i re-read the last few pages, i was positive you're asking why you are lower then bitfury, and they only get a -2 only on their ethics from self mining.. i guess an apology is in order for biting your butt over your old pre-orders, i'll still raise my nose and say better not do it again with the SP107 and SP12..

and yeah, no idea what dogies plans are on the F and old FF score, going to change the scoring? make sure its so unfair that anyone looking at a farm gets a -100, yep yep.

I love this a company making a joke out of something.  Got a laugh never saw this before.

Is there a limit on these?

I Love it! and no, im not Rawdawg just using my old meme of him, but im so buying into this! pre-order of a pre-order! Yo Dawg!


and thats why coms are 10 out of 10

Hey All,

I've asked a couple of places, even emailed Spondoolies: can the website handle payment for a single order split between USD and BTC? If not, is there a special procedure I need to use?

If you have a referral link and I decide to purchase, I'm more than willing to use it.

Thanks so much!

That is one of the problems. They were a huge consumer ASIC company, they are now a huge ASIC company and they do sell into the marketplace - you've just got to have big pockets. They've also not done anything wrong, so their rating is where it should be. They have an ethics infraction for farm mining, but I don't see it as useful to penalise companies significantly for doing that.

What a consumer needs to know is if what they order is going to arrive at all, on time and as described. Having a farm somewhere isn't going to interrupt that process, and may in fact strengthen it by making the company more financially resilient. "Damn, someone burnt down our factory. Luckily we have a second revenue stream so can rebuild and make these orders right."

tldr, its hard to impose strong penalties just for farm mining. And Bitfury hasn't done anything wrong, they are a big player in the industry and you just need deep pockets to access that.


No one gets an FF any more because information on farm size is hard to get with all the pomposity and secrecy. Western companies want to show off their farms as validation for investers, Eastern companies want to show off their farms in secret as validation for customers. And what is the cut-off for a large farm over a 'not large' farm?

I dare you to provide the answer!