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    March 07, 2014, 03:49:07 PM
    Last edit: March 07, 2014, 05:20:41 PM by Joshuar
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    Here are the facts: Dorian

    1) Dorian has bad english skills, he used incomplete sentences, bad punctuation, and capitilzation.

    2) Dorian denied being Satoshi and said he didn't even know what Bitcoin was until 2 weeks ago

    3) Dorian was relatively easy to track down

    4) Dorian was working for the U.S government government on classified projects.

    5) Dorian is age 64 as of 2014

    6) Dorian Nakamoto graduated from California State Polytechnic University in Pomona, Calif., with a degree in physics.
    7) The IP from exit point of first transaction with Finey is a dynamic Ip located around Los Angeles

    Here are the facts: Satoshi Nakamoto

    5) According to Satoshis many posts, he has good english skills

    6) Satoshi's age is 38 years old, though most likely age 43 now since he created Bitcoin five years ago, according to the p2pfoundation profile

    7) Satoshi used the Tor program to completely hide his Ip Address, so even the admin on this site had no way of tracking him down


    #1 theory: Dorian is indeed Satoshi, but playing it off to his amusement, why would someone who worked on classified projects for the U.S Military not have good english skills? The letter he wrote showing his bad english was probably due to him being drunk. He also doesn't want to be in the spotlight, and thus chooses to remain anonymous, although that's gone now.

    #2 theory: Dorian is Not Satoshi, Satoshi's p2pfoundation account made an announcement after years of being offline saying," I am not Dorian Nakamoto." The real Satoshi is someone completely different, with Satoshi Nakamot just being a name he made up, to confuse anyone trying to deduce his real identity in the future. He will reveal himself when he feels the time is right.

    #3 theory: Satoshi Nakamoto backwards spells otomakan ihsotas which can be translated into Internet Armaggadeon, Satoshi is the the fifth horseman, the Keyboard King, who will bring an end to the internet as we know it.

    #4 theory: Satoshi is a a cyborg from the future.



    http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A52186
    http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/06/satoshi-dorian/
    http://mag.newsweek.com/2014/03/14/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto.html

    * I'm going by information given from Satoshi's official profile on p2pfoundation and bitcointalk, as well as the information given in the news articles about Dorian nakamoto*
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    March 07, 2014, 03:54:23 PM
     #2
    Clearly number 4. From the balance of probabilities.

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    March 07, 2014, 03:55:26 PM
     #3
    There is literally no reason to believe Dorian is satoshi over anyone else. Just one reporter decided to randomly pick him, thats all. He COULD be satoshi, but so COULD I. Nobody knows.
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    March 07, 2014, 04:13:43 PM
     #4
    Are any of those actually facts ?

    All of those tin hat theories are getting boring. People should find some kind of more interesting topic.
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    March 07, 2014, 04:14:31 PM
     #5
    Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on March 07, 2014, 03:55:26 PM
    There is literally no reason to believe Dorian is satoshi over anyone else. Just one reporter decided to randomly pick him, thats all. He COULD be satoshi, but so COULD I. Nobody knows.

    This. people please don't believe on all of information, use brain all the time.
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    March 07, 2014, 04:42:04 PM
     #6
    It's: otomakan ihsotas backwards, not otomakan ihsotat

    and it translates to jack shit.

    wtf?
    where do you come up with this shit?

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    March 07, 2014, 04:43:47 PM
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    Does Dorion have any documented programming skills?
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    March 07, 2014, 04:52:35 PM
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    It was created and that's all that matters.
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    March 07, 2014, 04:56:28 PM
     #9
    Who is Dorion? You mean Dorian? How can we even take this post seriously if you couldn't spell his name right.

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    March 07, 2014, 05:03:49 PM
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    Hmmm and this :

    • Dorian Nakamoto graduated from California State Polytechnic University in Pomona, Calif., with a degree in physics.
    • The IP from exit point of first transaction with Finey is a dynamic Ip located around Los Angeles
    • No famous japanese with the name of Satoshi Nakamoto. So why choose this name ?
    • His first name before he changed is Satoshi

    Nothing really with this but you have old peoples very smart in computer science/programmation.

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    March 07, 2014, 05:04:42 PM
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    Quote from: rohnearner on March 07, 2014, 05:00:31 PM
    how about creating a poll regarding same..!


    Yep a poll would be nice , I however will vote he is not Satoshi

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    March 07, 2014, 05:09:04 PM
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    Quote from: boomertoo on March 07, 2014, 05:04:42 PM
    Quote from: rohnearner on March 07, 2014, 05:00:31 PM
    how about creating a poll regarding same..!


    Yep a poll would be nice , I however will vote he is not Satoshi
    That is the obvious answer , but i'll love to see people having different opinion , and there absurd logic to prove it.

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    March 07, 2014, 05:14:50 PM
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    Quote from: Littleshop on March 07, 2014, 04:43:47 PM
    Does Dorion have any documented programming skills?

    Dorian worked for the U.S Military on things that are now classified. You can assume if you want to, that it involved programming.
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    March 07, 2014, 05:19:01 PM
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    Quote from: Joshuar on March 07, 2014, 03:49:07 PM
    7) The IP from exit point of first transaction with Finey is a dynamic Ip located around Los Angeles
    Really? How?

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    6) Satoshi's age is 38 years old, though most likely age 43 now since he created Bitcoin five years ago, according to the p2pfoundation profile
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    7) The IP from exit point of first transaction with Finey is a dynamic Ip located around Los Angeles
    Really? How?

    The log of Finey with the first transaction give this dynamic IP:

    Code:
    h-68-164-57-219.lsan.ca.dynamic.megapath.net
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    March 07, 2014, 05:28:23 PM
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    Quote from: boomertoo on March 07, 2014, 05:04:42 PM
    Yep a poll would be nice , I however will vote he is not Satoshi

    Polls are pointless.

    The mob has already made up their mind although past experience tells me that the mob are normally always wrong.
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    March 07, 2014, 05:40:35 PM
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    Quote from: Holliday on March 07, 2014, 04:07:46 PM
    I haven't seen any facts yet. I've only heard circumstantial evidence.
    There is no real evidence in this case.
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    March 07, 2014, 06:07:47 PM
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    Quote from: MatTheCat on March 07, 2014, 05:28:23 PM
    Quote from: boomertoo on March 07, 2014, 05:04:42 PM
    Yep a poll would be nice , I however will vote he is not Satoshi

    Polls are pointless.

    The mob has already made up their mind although past experience tells me that the mob are normally always wrong.
    So you are telling me that mob is wrong here too..! because as far as i know and understood after reading many posts a very higher number of members came to conclusion that Daroin is not the one the world is looking for.
    And yeah I agree that polls are not that meaningful as they should be.

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    March 07, 2014, 06:08:51 PM
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    Basically you have two claims of fact here, one from the reporter quoting Dorian and one from Dorian directly.

    Allegedly, Dorian said to Goodman:  "I am no longer involved in that and cannot discuss it. It’s been turned over to other people."

    This statement is consistent with a number of possibilities.

    • Goodman is lying
    • Goodman misunderstood what he said
    • Dorian actually said it and intended it to sound like it did, but was lying
    • Same, but he was telling the truth

    Then there's Dorian's explicit denial of being Satoshi.

    • Dorian is not Satoshi and is telling the truth, which is what someone who is not Satoshi would probably do
    • Dorian is Satoshi and is refusing to admit it, which is what someone who is Satoshi would probably do

    In other words, the statements we have combined with who made them and the circumstances are completely consistent with any imaginable set of facts, and there is no particular reason to believe one set of possible facts over another.  In short, we have a lot of noise and no information, making this a fairly typical "news" media incident about personalities rather than facts.

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    March 07, 2014, 06:09:44 PM
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    Quote from: darkmule on March 07, 2014, 06:08:51 PM
    Basically you have two claims of fact here, one from the reporter quoting Dorian and one from Dorian directly.

    Allegedly, Dorian said to Goodman:  "I am no longer involved in that and cannot discuss it. It’s been turned over to other people."
    He was talking about engineering, not bitcoin.
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