sry for necroing. just stumbled over op headline...

guess the come back wasn't a lie. 

fun fact: somehow a tweet from Jstolfi got into my feed. hilarious. he is literally still shitting on bitcoin calling it a ponzi - almost asked him if he had plans to return to btctalk. (I heard he had logged in here as of lately).

now that they are all gone I almost miss them. but I guess not even the hardest masochist can stand the constant flak in WO for long.

yes, reality leaves the moronic haters no choices. 2021 will be tough for them.

Ha! Prof. Bitcorn was the same. Last I remember from him he was telling people to "mark his words" that 20k was the retail top and would never again be reached. Some people just love to double down on their losing positions.

All dependent on when you arrived. If you've been through one cycle before then you're fully immunised to proper panic, or at least I felt exactly zilch from 2017 onwards other than boredom.

If newcomers could upload the experience of complete boom and bust into their sweaty minds they would come out the next real one in a vastly better position. Either way post 2017 it was shit but the idea of it dwindling to nothing had become outlandish. Far less so in 2014/15.

They should keep it, they have waited 3 years HODLING their coins, another all time high is looming, they have extend their patient for the past two years why letting it go now, unless you badly need money because of the pandemic, but if you can still keep on, why not HODL for another one year, things are looking better now, they are going to regret it if Bitcoin reach $30 k next year.

I remember Dec 2018 like it was yesterday, and it was pretty much as bad as that $200 support break back in 2015, I think it was in Aug 2015 or so. Basically it was a scary time also because BTC traded at $200 forever and when it broke $200, we all assumed it would go to double digits but the next day or so it quickly went back above $200 and that was actually the LOWEST that I have ever seen bitcoin trade since I got involved with crypto. And don't say, "why didnt you get a loan and buy all the BTC you could at $175?" Because I didn't know it was the bottom.

Just like this individual felt in Dec 2018, sure it seems like a good idea to buy at $3200 back in that time however the sentiment was negative and looked like BTC would go to maybe triple digits back then. So it doesn't matter how many cycles you have been through, if you got a large percentage of your savings tied into crypto, those times sure must of hurt.

The Dec low was harsh over xmas as well but the lows before that after 2013 peaking seemed far worse, a desolate wasteland of a failed idea type meta and it wasnt that but overall I think there was a ton more doubt and it reflected in price in that first instance that I remember.    The halvening in 2016 probably helped more then at first realised to break the back of that negative sentiment.  
 The reason this thread is worth referring back to is that it will repeat most likely, both negative sentiment and the reference to QE being ended.    You will know when QE ends because it will go boom, it'll get your attention whether interested or not.   They cant unwind or neutralise QE, Japan hasnt managed to reverse 30 years of decline with decades of QE because its not a positive or productive measure, its disruptive and a last resort but now its commonplace.  Its likely we are going to witness once in a generation events before its over and somehow BTC is woven in and involved in that process both positive and negatives.   Volatility is a rising trend is my general take so it wont just be price appreciation but more upsets and tests along the way I reckon.

  I think you had the 2018 sell-off that caused you to panic and lose confidence in Bitcoin. Actually, there are many people who suffer like you but they choose to be silent. The sad thing about manipulation is that manipulation is so common that it can lose all greedy people in just a few days.
So when participating in the crypto market, be sure to have a safe method of making money. manipulative organizations are still growing stronger so in the coming days, we also need to be careful about the correction after the rising streak.
Ps: I would say that Bitcoin can surpass ATH and may continue to fly even higher in the future. Do not be too pessimistic about Bitcoin because in the future it will soon be legalized worldwide.

It's not about being hardened against panic. If you'd feel exactly the same at $800 as you would at $16K then good on you, but I'm mainly interested in the actual trajectory of the market.

The point was that in early December 2018, regardless of any fundamental factors, it was very possible Bitcoin was going to fail below the 200-week MA, the previous 2013 ATH, etc. This would have, in my opinion, ended Bitcoin's historic bull market. We could even be trading in triple digits right now if things had gone that way.

Obviously things didn't go that way and I see that scenario as virtually impossible now, but as is the case in all bear markets, you can't recognize the bottom until it's very far away in hindsight.