Reserved....

Let the fireworks start

I agree with Wheelz, as shit as shit coins come..bcash is the only fork worth “caring about”.

Wallet Cards (NFC, scratch off, security hologram) - physical plastic wallets in card form such as BitBills.

Paper Wallet - while a generic term, paper wallets like Poly and Suisse etc are their own thing too.  

(Physical)Crypto Art- art containing keys such as cryptoart.com collectibles and cryptografitti works

Cold Storage coins - self explanatory

Physical Crypto Bars- Casascius, Kialara, Finite By Design, BigTimeSpaghetti, CoinPlus

Hardware Wallets? Not sure if it fits what you’re looking for

Hardware Wallet Cards- Gox, Mycelium etc

Crypto hardware Yubikeys - Gox etc

Crypto Bullion - self explanatory

Commemorative Bitcoin coins - reaching probably here same as token maybe  


Will continue this list as I think of stuff (disclaimer -this list may be pure shit..I just kinda went for it lol). Man I’m a nerd.

Breached or possibly breached - Any coin listed on your thread about them. Don't know if there is a better explanation then that. We all know what it means, but there is no hard and fast rule about it.

ShitcoinForks - Same as above. There is no standard, usually means loaded after the Aug 1 2017 BCH fork but before the Oct 24 2017 BTG fork.
However different people see it differently and "all shit forks" means pre Aug 1. We should probably come up with a standard at least within the forum.
Even I am forced to check when someone posts. I am now actively bidding on something that was listed as "Has all the shitforks" but was loaded Dec 11th 2017 which means no BTG, BCX, BTD. I really don't care, but someone else who did not check the date is was loaded might.

And we might want to use something other then the word shit.

-Dave

I am going to have to disagree with you on that a least a bit.

I have been buying from you trading with you for a while. What if it turns out that Mantis coins that you were funding were coming from BTC that you had stolen?
(Yes I know you are not a crook and you are not funding coins it's just an example) But it might matter down the road. It's easy to say it's like cash. But we all know it's not.
I know that if I have to peel & redeem the coins that I funded I know more or less whe-re it came from (mining exchanges). For the BTC that I buy and sell stuff with it's very fast and loose. Sell some hardware, buy some coins, sell some other collectables buy some others, whatever. For the coins I have bought loaded it's a bit more fuzzy.

What happens if it turns out that CryptoImperator (just picking another coin maker out of thin air) was actually laundering money for a crime ring? You sent him your nice clean coins, he loaded the coin he sent you with some extortion BTC do you care?

This is probably taking this WAY off of where krogothmanhattan wanted but it is something to think about.

-Dave

   I look at Bitcoin as a currency and thus when Bitbills and Casascius made their idea of Bitcoin into Physical Bitcoins it was not just as collectables but I assume also a way to trade Bitcoin in person without have to register its transaction on Blockchain. Also Casascius wanted to educate people on making it easier for them to understand it in physical form when for some it was hard to grasp Bitcoin in digital format.

   And yes these have turned out as collectables as well, so have Fiat currency coins, they are both collectable items and real currencycoins as well.



Agree Dave...I wouldnt trust what is written on a sale or auction. I would always check the loading date when it comes to this.
             But then again, I wouldnt be bidding on any coin with the other coins in mind as they are not part of any survivor equation
             that I think will be around in the future. When I bid only keep BTC in mind and not the rest. But still a good point.As they
             say in Latin caveat emptor, buyer beware...do your due diligence. ALWAYS.
            
             Agree...the word shit not be used. Perhaps we should just say has Bitcoin and all the other forked BTC versions instead.

 


        Great points. I think it depends on what level of a collector you see yourself on accepting in your collection.

        If for example I had to choose a Casascius coin loaded by Mike himself or a Cas coin loaded by someone else, I would choose the one by Mike.

        For instance, many people were not aware of loadiing dates either until Monkeynuts posted the auction a few weeks back. As a collector I was always

        looking at loading dates alongside the condition. I would not want to buy a 2011 coin loaded in  2012. Most people dont care. I do.

        I am also a philatelist and in that hobby, there are stamps have what we call CTO, cancelled to order. This is when the post office cancels the stamp

       with a fancy cancel and the stamp and envelope never goes to its destination but rather given to the collector directly. It is used.

        As a die hard stamp collector I would buy the one that was genuinly cancelled and sent thru the mail rather than CTO which is geared for collectors.

       SO it all on how you want to build your collection. I am very conscious of these little things that make the world of a difference for me., but maybe not for

        others.

      
    Agrawas...alway always...check for yourself. Very easy to do. And yes the seller should say loaded or unloaded, but they can also make mistakes.
              Again buyer beware.  Same thing goes for coin makers who have been breached or have shady reps...should that be included in the OP?
              Example, Alitin coin...if a loaded coin comes up like it has on Ebay, I think the seller shouldve mentioned the coin maker had a major breach.
              But he didnt even though I POINTED IT OUT to him. You find honest people and dishonest. Again like to todl Dave F, Caveat Emptor!

              I made the thread that is pinned to the top of our collectable section to make newbies aware of what is out there as I dont think its fair they do not  know. https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/3315347.0

              Great posts by everyone, Thankyou!  Will update the OP with more definitions!

        
        

korns = Bitcoin

I really like this ideas and will definitely add some more after I read through everyone elses.

- Redeemed Peeled Swept
- SHA-256 Private Key
- Mintage
- DIY
- GILT
- COA Certificate of Authenticity
- Grading Services (ANACS ICG)
- Freshly Minted Bits (BTCC)

Then they would run the risk of getting less for the coin.

2 identical coins go up.

One is like mine smoothie --> Me
The other is smoothie --> Them --> grading house --> someone else --> MJ doing the auction for them so they can remain unknown.

To some people having it graded is going to be worth more, to others knowing only 2 people have touched it is worth more.

-Dave
 

  Great point!  What defines rare?

This just came up in a different forum about regular silver coins.

Short version:
Do we need a "graded reliable" and "graded unreliable"

Long version:
Do we need should we have a discussion out here in public, probably on a separate thread about the "quality" or "accuracy" of coin grading houses in regard to cryptos?
If we know "A" will grade something that has been driven over by a UPS truck with a MS65 but "B" will kick it back to you with a comment of *hell no* scribbled on the receipt should this information be more accessible?

As krogothmanhattan said about checking the load of a coin. Caveat Emptor!  BUT, if without digging through 100s of posts it becomes almost impossible. Even with a bit of digging I still don't know who graded the killyou coin.

Dave's logic behind making this more public --> Anything we can do to help remove scammers is good. Anything we can do to make scammers lives more difficult is good. If a new person does not know and does not look to find out that's on them.  If they don't know and we do but don't tell them and make it difficult to find out, that's on us.

Counter argument --> We are not your mom. It's not our job. 

Sorry for the rambling, but someone on the silver forum just did a test with PCGS grading and it ended...poorly...lets leave it at that.

-Dave