Yah I think .2% of the people get it though and 1% of the people understand bitcoin so the odds are pretty bad for us atm, just sick of loading up twitter and seeing stuff like this every damn day.

https://twitter.com/APompliano/status/1148779712992423938 Bitcoin just broke $13,000 🔥
https://twitter.com/Bayareamade/status/1148817430493331456 we did it $13k #btc tonight I sold. let's see price in morning @EpochTimes @Bitcoin

And new forum post like this

https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/5163635.0 Mark Yusko: Bitcoin can go up to $ 30,000 without correction
https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/5162237.0 Willy Woo Reclaims “Bitcoin Will Surely Strike $1 Trillion Market Cap by the Sta  (Read 257 times)

Honestly it is cringe as fuck.

The peer-to-peer concept of bitcoin is still alive.I can send bitcoins to anyone on the planet,who has a bitcoin wallet.The problem is that the focus of the bitcoin community moved away from p2p and went into prices and cryptocurrency exchange platforms.Unfortunately,we can't stop all the greed.

Maybe so, but rational greed is inevitable in the context of exponential price gains. Like it or not, greed is also major driver of Bitcoin adoption. I can tell you from anecdotal experience that some investors drawn in by greed will stick around and develop a real understanding of, and appreciation for, Bitcoin. Just like I did. This isn't an overnight process, though.

Bitcoin is not a currency, its like digital gold which can easily change hands and total active supply of bitcoin can be verified unlike gold deposits so it can be considered as even better than gold. Price of gold is also volatile just like bitcoin because it can be traded. People will buy bitcoin for whatever purpose they have as it is open to everyone and i think there also should be freedom for people to take bitcoin the way they like we cant stop some people calling it another ponzi, bubble etc even when they are the one who are actively trading bitcoin.

I'm getting paid in satoshis and i would love if could just buy things directly in BTC, but that is sadly not the reality i live in. But, at least i try to hold as much as possible (which isn't much but...). And if i ever find a stable source of fiat again, i'd would keep buying either bitcoin directly or equipment to mine it.

How do you break the status quo of fiat supremacy, even in the country with the worst fiat? People are stubborn.

I do a lot of P2P transactions, and there's a huge number of people who does
It's normal that we use exchanges to do some trades, or even to change fiat to BTC, we can't stop this right now, it's the evolution of the market, now we have an entire environment of cryptos

Cypherpunks is a tiny community, libertarian views aren't very popular in the world, so how can you expect both mass adoption and people viewing BTC as purely a cypherpunk tool and not an investment asset, especially when the price explodes? And if Bitcoin can't withstand millions of people using however they like, including with intermediaries, then Bitcoin was a failed idea from the start, because it would turn out that all what it takes to defeat Bitcoin is just let it get adopted by regular people. But I think it's not the case, because Bitcoin today is even healthier then before, when there was so much fighting over its future.

I don't think OP means that at all, he's talking more about the fact that most people choose to hand over control of their coins to exchanges.
Well that's at least part of it, combined with the fact that we use exchanges in the first place to buy and sell Bitcoin.

I'm personally pretty pragmatic about it, I don't mind buying coins from exchanges. After all, it's usually less risky than doing P2P trades and you often get far better rates, depending on which exchange you use.
The only thing I really worry about is too much power going to one specific exchange. That's why I tend to use the smaller exchanges which have proven to be secure, Kraken is one of my favourites.

That said, I do also buy goods and services directly with Bitcoin and I do try to find services which don't immediately exchange their BTC to fiat.