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    December 06, 2020, 03:16:12 PM
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    Hello
    I hope that I am writing my question in the right topic first of all.
    I am trying to use my bitcoin on one of the Mihoyo game but they want to have Visa or Mastercard. I am trying to find a website where I can use my bitcoin in Visa or Mastercard version without verify with documents.
    I am fine to give mobile numbers and such things but not serious documents which can leak on the internet if the website is hacked. I don't trust any of the websites which want to have such documents because we don't know for real what they will doing with the information even if they mentioning that they will just use to verify the account if not fraud.

    So is there a website which is trusted and not need to verify with sensitive documents to get a prepaid virtual card?

    It is ok if that has limitations. I just need something temporary.
    Thank you in advance all of the answers.

    Edit:
    I forgot to mention that I checked many websites on the Google but many of time wanted to have verification and some of them had bad reputation.

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    December 06, 2020, 03:34:41 PM
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    Getting crypto credit/debit cards without requiring personal documents is somewhat risky coz they might end up running your funds and you will end up with nothing. Though it's somewhat helpful to those anonymous people who don't want kyc.

    Found some thread here offering such service you can take a look and see it for yourself. But as what I said, such services are risky, so proceed with risk.

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    December 06, 2020, 03:47:48 PM
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    When you divert yourself into fiat, means most probably you have to use your personal documents like KYC. It's quite complicated to skip when using a credit/debit card. Because you can't use cryptocurrency directly via credit/debit cards. The crypto funds will be converted into fiat via a third party. I have seen a few services those offering card even without KYC but there is no warranty if you face the further issue. I will suggest if it's possible to use, then collect a card from your local banks. So, you shouldn't worry about KYC leakage.
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    December 06, 2020, 06:18:34 PM
    Last edit: December 06, 2020, 07:06:04 PM by valakik
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    I see.
    Thank you for the answers @bL4nkcode and @Coolcryptovator.
    It sounds ok the suggestion which you recommended @bL4nkcode but it seems that I need to pay for creating the card when I want just temporary time.

    But it seems yeah. It is harder than expected to find which I need. In old times I found one but hmm I forgot the name. Something with "u" letter started the name. Hmm I hope that I will find again and then I can link here. In the old times that was famous.

    Edit:
    I found. In the end not "u" but the full name was Xapo. In the past they didn't force to have documents but it seems they changed also the system. They are forcing to have documents.

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    December 06, 2020, 10:17:02 PM
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    Quote from: valakik on December 06, 2020, 06:18:34 PM
    But it seems yeah. It is harder than expected to find which I need. In old times I found one but hmm I forgot the name. Something with "u" letter started the name. Hmm I hope that I will find again and then I can link here. In the old times that was famous.
    Yes, lots of such kind services before when KYC isn't required. Thanks to ICOs, SEC force almost everything here in crypto to do that.

    Anyway, maybe you can check this list as well

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    December 07, 2020, 05:39:58 AM
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    I have seen similar services in the past but now I don't think they exist. IMO, it is mainly due to government bodies putting so many regulations in the industry.

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    December 07, 2020, 06:58:31 AM
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    To be honest, receiving prepaid cards without documents is very strange and risky, since you do not know where the card was created and on what conditions, and even more so you have no guarantees that your money will be safe, but if you still decide on this, it is very necessary check the license of the company that will issue you the card as well as the agreement confirming that they cooperate with Visa and Mastercard
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    December 07, 2020, 07:06:04 AM
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    After buying and using the any type of credit cards or debit cards you will need to pass the KYC that's what the bank asks you to do. Now if you want to pass this step you will need to trust a third-part person to supple the CC for you by doing the KYC himself in this case there is always a risk of losing all our money because that person can easily get access to the CC by providing his documents. There are many websites providing services some are trusted and some not, but in the end there is no guarantee.

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    December 07, 2020, 07:19:22 AM
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    where I can use my bitcoin in Visa or Mastercard version without verify with documents.

    There's no way to use your Bitcoin "in Visa or Mastercard".I don't know exactly what you are trying to say...
    Nowadays,there's no way to buy Bitcoin with fiat money without ID verification.
    I remember a website called mmoga.com,where you could by Bitcoin gift cards with fiat payment methods,but but the fees were high I don't think that this is possible without KYC verification anymore.
    Unfortunately,"Know your customer" policies are the biggest obstacle for mass Bitcoin adoption.

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    December 07, 2020, 07:42:28 AM
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    Quote from: dizzy1996 on December 07, 2020, 06:58:31 AM
    To be honest, receiving prepaid cards without documents is very strange and risky, since you do not know where the card was created and on what conditions, and even more so you have no guarantees that your money will be safe, but if you still decide on this, it is very necessary check the license of the company that will issue you the card as well as the agreement confirming that they cooperate with Visa and Mastercard
    That is the problem that I see too, without identity verification, cards that are sent to you might be dubious and in the worst case, the card might be a fraud and using it might link back to you and in the end you will be the one on the court stand proving your innocence. I do not think that any reputable card companies will do this without KYC as we all know, they love to know more about us so they bomabard us with ads about deals that promote the use of their cards.
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    December 07, 2020, 10:38:47 AM
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    You could try looking for some e-cards in play-asia or something similar. I forgot which one exactly, but I know play-asia was one of the sites I visited, Tried finding some sites I needed so I can load up on a few games I wanted. I used bitcoin as payment and all went well, though your search may end up with wasted effort since what I was looking for specifically wasn't for Mihoyo, but hey, might as well try no?

    Additionally, what Mihoyo game are you trying to top up to? If it was Genshin, try logging in on your mobile and topping up there. You may find other ways that are accessible by your crypto wallet since afaik, there's a different method of payment via PC and via Mobile.

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    December 07, 2020, 12:33:58 PM
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    Hello
    The sole reason they are asking you for your documents is actually because of safety. It's the same reason why banks and other public services do need verified documents because if incase something happens they would not know who to blame and who to protect. It is better that you get your cards from a trusted company. If the company allowed cards based on anonymous demands people can just make duplicate ones , the company might have a lot of problems on their side too. No wonder we have to use these things right now. So just go for it. In our country the accounts linked with the wallets had to provide their documents and address proof. I was using it since years , but I believe in the wallet company therefore I am still using it. Even when the bitcoins were banned everyone was well informed to take their funds out and such. So it depends on you. But I don't think you can find a good site which is trustable and doesn't need documentation.

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    December 07, 2020, 12:57:05 PM
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    The site you want to use the cards on is based in China, where are you?
    For some places you can get virtual Visa MC at https://www.coinsbee.com/en/
    Along with other giftcards.

    The operator of the site is active on here on the forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2667213;sa=showPosts

    There have been some issues here and there with them but I have not seen them run off with someone's money.

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    December 07, 2020, 03:24:34 PM
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    Well tbh, I would give my details to the companies but except my ID numbers. I live in Sweden and we don't have separate ID number for taxes but same ID number for everything.
    Address, name and other stuffs I would give without problem but ID number is very sensitive information. If we give to the website this information then they can use it to fraud things. "Trusted" companies exists in the beginning but who knows meanwhile what happens afterwards with the data even if they mentioning that they will not using elsewhere.

    I would like rather be happy to have an information system to just bitcoin. So bitcoin websites would just ask for a separate number and not the same ID number which is used to everything or the banks will have their crypto support and then no need to depend other country's crypto card things.
    I am skeptic when I am giving sensitive information to different country's company.

    Yeah it is about Genshin. I will try then gift cards then. Thank you for the answers. Smiley

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    December 07, 2020, 03:53:58 PM
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    Quote from: hector3115 on December 07, 2020, 01:57:37 PM
    How legal is it to buy virtual cards without linking them to documents?

    Loaded question.
    Here in the US it's 100% fine.
    No different then walking into your local Target WalMart 7-11 whatever and putting cash on the counter and buying a prepaid Visa (or MC or Amex or Discover) gift card.
    They make great last minute gifts :-)

    In other parts of the world I have no idea what the rules are.
    However, I have traveled to a few countries and bought them with cash with no ID and used online with no ID so I really don't think it's that big a deal.

    There are probably limits to the amount of money you can do this with before there is some legal paperwork that has to be filed but I have no idea what it is and it would vary from country to country anyway.

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    January 19, 2021, 04:47:12 AM
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    Here is something you might find interesting.

    It's a virtual prepaid card that you can top up with crypto, no KYC.

    It has a 3000 dollar top up limit, but you can ask a new one at any time.

    They are partners with Wagecan.



    https://www.lngiftcard.com/
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