Bitcoin mining industry contributes to carbon emission and global warming but it is unfair and untrue to say that it is one of most polluting and environmental harmful industries.

I think in furture, in order to get better energy consumption cost as well as to adapt to stricter governmental regulations, Bitcoin mining farms will switch to more renewable resources. It will make the industry becoming more environmental friendly, less polluting.

Currently it is not a biggest industry and does not consume bigger energy. In addition, their proportion if renewable energy resources is better than many nations and industries.

didn't read the thread, but in case anyone didn't say this already...


....isn't the actual climate chang-ists argument that:

all energy use is bad, and so it must all be monitored, and adjudicated? (essentially, politicizing it, as there is no objective way to determine which uses are deserving)


and cynical old me, I would guess that we're also supposed to sit around in freezing cold/scorching hot apartments, in Metaverse, where we fight back the tears experiencing what we imagine even a normal life would be by 2010's standards. Then when some high level toady in the hierarchy gets ratted out by rivals for.. i dunno, smoking a cigarette, we're also supposed to be shocked and disappointed, then we have to diligently do some extra pedaling on our humanoid hamster wheels to pay for the carbon credits needed to annul 1 cigarette of CO₂?

if Black Mirror producers are reading, then, yes, I am available for creative development roles

there are so many people who say that bitcoin is a disaster for the environment when in fact that is not true at all even though it has a very large impact received by bitcoin where by saying that bitcoin is a disaster for the environment it indirectly makes the price of bitcoin not so stable on the stock market by the existence of these discourses.even though there is no energy generated that can cause pollution so that there is pollution to the environment and we have seen that in the last few years

right, this is the gift that keeps on giving for the policymakers


it's essentially impossible to balance the interaction of ALL externalities from industry with the natural world. And so it's nothing but a stick to beat the serfdom with in perpetuity.

meanwhile, if you are one of the aforesaid serfs, and would like other natural things as a part of your life:

• trees in your locale or 'property'
• clean water on your 'property'
• grow or eat unprocessed food
• rearing children without constant pressure to subject them to endless unnatural influences or substances

...you're somehow the worst person in the whole world. Better keep buying all those 'green' energy and products, made with vast (and increasing) amounts of plastics, metals and other mining products that ravage microhabitats and poison the air, ground and water, right?


I somehow don't believe the oil/mining billionaires and European Royal families that push the climate panic are ok with changing into Amish people living in trees to stop the world setting on fire, call me cynical if you will

The Bitcoin Mining Council Released their 22Q2 Mining Data.




They updated their data on the global Bitcoin Mining Consumption:


And the energy Mix supporting the network:




Click here for the Press release


Video of the Bitcoin Mining Council 22Q1 Briefing:

A great defense article about Bitcoin, it is undeniable that Bitcoin wastes a lot of energy and participates in polluting the environment but it is not the only one that does this, there are many industries that pollute the environment and the atmosphere more than Bitcoin but Bitcoin is deliberately targeted, the main reason is known to all Bitcoin is attacked Because it is a symbol of decentralization and privacy.
I especially liked the “Bitcoin to a battery” analogy, but is this really true? Is there really amounts of energy needed by those who consume it? All countries always complain about the need for energy and are looking for alternative or additional solutions, so I do not know how true this is?

Do you have the ability to reason?
If so you realize the reason the miners stabilized the power grid was they turned off their miners,
which means the action of keeping them on, destabilized the power grid.

You are giving them credit for momentarily stopping their overuse of the grid power,
Which they have already restarted, draining the grid.

If your miners actually built power plants, as you claim, why are they needing to hook up to the grid.
If they did not suck the power from the grid, but remained isolated , they would be of little concern.

Like I said earlier.
The only way to make Proof of Waste energy efficient is to turn it off.
The mistake is letting the miners turn it back on.  

Funny how you totally missed the following:
https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/14/23206795/bitcoin-crypto-mining-electricity-texas-grid-energy-bills-emissions

But you being a btc cultist, I can see why reality escapes you.  

What people need to get through their heads,
It is not PoW vs PoS,
PoS won years ago, as one can easily tell from the lack of new PoW coin designs and the numerous new PoS designs.

It is PoW vs People right to use affordable energy.
PoW vs Having an Air Conditioner
PoW vs Having electric Heat
PoW vs Having Lights
PoW vs Having Hot Water/Cook Food
PoW vs Playing Video Games
PoW vs Having Freezer/Refrigerator
PoW vs Basically anything else using electricity

Which is why PoW is a dead end, because eventually it prevents people from using energy for anything else.
How are the btc cultist going to spin it , when the BTC PoW miners cause a grid collapse,
and a multitude of people die in Texas because of pure PoW miner's greed.
It will be good if the PoW ban happens before that scenario happens, but odds are currently 50/50,
that Texans die needlessly for PoW miners greed.  

FYI:   https://energsustainsoc.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13705-019-0199-y

FYI2:  https://www.change.org/p/no-to-riot-bitcoin-mine-in-navarro-county

Like I said , it is PoW vs People.
Which is why the banning of PoW is a future guarantee.  

They’re on when there’s not enough stress on the grid, so it’s not destabilising. It’s simply using whats built to be used, when it’s not used as much by people. Load profiles vary by season, time of day etc. Peak demand usually occurs in the morning and evening, when people are at home. So you will have a lot of hours during the day/night where this electricity usage isn’t „destabilising“ anything, as energy demand is low during these hours. If miners actually increase demand during these time, they’re helping financing the entire infrastructure for everyone. Also many miners are adding more capacity, that can actually be used in the grid when needed. Regular people are also the highest paying customers, we see them get prioritised every time. Miners are not taking anything from anyone.


They probably need to hook up to the grid, because renewables don’t work 24/7 and so they can give energy to the grid when needed. But if they only use energy during non-peak hours it’s no problem for the grid. It’s already handled trough price, because Bitcoin mining won’t be profitable when people need this energy, so we don’t see them using the energy people need. Miners that completely rely on the grid will probably go bankrupt sooner or later, as they don’t have additional income trough the grid and won’t be able to compete in the future, when lower energy prices are needed for mining to stay profitable. This is all already handled trough Bitcoins incentives.


Nah man if we wanna fix this energy mess we should acknowledge truth. Mining load is flexible, it can be turnt back on when this energy isn’t needed otherwise. And this works perfectly in a decentralised worldwide network.

It’s simple, if the grid can’t handle it they simply won’t get the electricity. So miners actually need to increase the capacity to not go bankrupt with that much competition. Relying solely on the grid won’t work for them, so relax. People will always be prioritised, not miners.


Thanks for the laughs, did you consider working for current governments? You might be a good fit. If this doesn’t work out, i can enlist you in some psychological studies, as this special case deserves some serious studying.


I feel bad for the US, i thought propaganda was already bad where im at.


A cringe mob of hysterical people that doesn’t understand what they’re shouting about, what should someone take from this? It only reflects bad on them. Makes you question how many people in the population can actually use their brain.

I should, i love hot weather. And i stayed in this kind of weather without AC many times. Im not saying others should, so maybe show your politicians that you actually understand these problems, so they can’t blame it on others easily and keep fooling you.


There’s no Bitcoin mining around here and yet we have the same problems. Maybe because energy prices have nothing to do with Bitcoin and availability of electricity neither? Where i live we probably already paid 3x as much as texans and it’s still rising, so ik better what it’s like. Just don’t confuse something other people are responsible for with Bitcoin, just because it sounds like an easy solution. So stop confusing the two or prove it.


A communist party that sees their monetary monopoly threatened cares about the environment first, or maybe it could be something else? If you look at their track record you must be naive to think that any of their decisions have any of these considerations.

It secures the network so it’s not wasted, it extends energy infrastructure so it’s not wasted, it’s what allows money to be decentralized so it’s not wasted, it’s a buyer for electricity 24/7 which is needed so it’s not wasted, it triggers PoS shills, politicians and other cringe people so it couldn’t be more worth it.


Lazy to read?

So let’s conclude, let me just build the most outdated grid that can’t even serve the demand of the market and instead of using this investment opportunity to better things, I’ll just use this topic politically and blame people that are not responsible for the grid that it doesn’t work? So let’s not actually better things and use the money i taxed people to do exactly this, but just find a scapegoat that distracts from actual failures. Sounds like they know what they’re doing and serving the people.