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    August 30, 2021, 08:46:15 AM
    Last edit: August 30, 2021, 09:21:32 AM by COBRAS
     #1
    Original coordinates of public key:

    (93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552, 19494200143356336257404688340550956357466777176798681646526975620299854296492)

    =


    alternative:

    (93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552 : 96297889093959859166166296668136951495803207488841882392930608387608980375171 : 1)

    *

    fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364140

    =

    (93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552, 19494200143356336257404688340550956357466777176798681646526975620299854296492)

    Compressed addresses are the same and belong to 17s2b9ksz5y7abUm92cHwG8jEPCzK3dLnT


    Interesting, Yes ?

    Qeschion - who can find privkey for point:

    (93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552 : 96297889093959859166166296668136951495803207488841882392930608387608980375171 : 1)

    HuhHuh?
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    August 30, 2021, 09:15:31 AM
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    Compressed addresses are the same and belong to 17s2b9ksz5y7abUm92cHwG8jEPCzK3dLnT
    No, you just calculated it in a wrong way. Some example:
    Code:
    importpubkey "02ceb6cbbcdbdf5ef7150682150f4ce2c6f4807b349827dcdbdd1f2efa885a2630" "firstkey" false
    null
    getaddressesbylabel "firstkey"
    {
      "17s2b9ksz5y7abUm92cHwG8jEPCzK3dLnT": {
        "purpose": "receive"
      },
      "3CiPke5gtEYNpGhcdUbemvxdDKH3hWe6xt": {
        "purpose": "receive"
      },
      "bc1qfdrwzzj5rthvd03l43cfcft0kldxjvywxqax37": {
        "purpose": "receive"
      }
    }

    importpubkey "03ceb6cbbcdbdf5ef7150682150f4ce2c6f4807b349827dcdbdd1f2efa885a2630" "secondkey" false
    null
    getaddressesbylabel "secondkey"
    {
      "1NgoEzuMrPDkadgBgmRQEfsDsK9oWhiEXH": {
        "purpose": "receive"
      },
      "38xKLmVWq37FYPh7wyWYzVRAcvLkTVgVfa": {
        "purpose": "receive"
      },
      "bc1qahshdh9ftqt7ayycxzq65zzg7c47vgd3sfwu99": {
        "purpose": "receive"
      }
    }
    Quote from: satoshi
    I've moved on to other things.

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    August 30, 2021, 09:19:14 AM
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    Quote from: vjudeu on August 30, 2021, 09:15:31 AM
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    Compressed addresses are the same and belong to 17s2b9ksz5y7abUm92cHwG8jEPCzK3dLnT
    No, you just calculated it in a wrong way. Some example:
    Code:
    importpubkey "02ceb6cbbcdbdf5ef7150682150f4ce2c6f4807b349827dcdbdd1f2efa885a2630" "firstkey" false
    null
    getaddressesbylabel "firstkey"
    {
      "17s2b9ksz5y7abUm92cHwG8jEPCzK3dLnT": {
        "purpose": "receive"
      },
      "3CiPke5gtEYNpGhcdUbemvxdDKH3hWe6xt": {
        "purpose": "receive"
      },
      "bc1qfdrwzzj5rthvd03l43cfcft0kldxjvywxqax37": {
        "purpose": "receive"
      }
    }

    importpubkey "03ceb6cbbcdbdf5ef7150682150f4ce2c6f4807b349827dcdbdd1f2efa885a2630" "secondkey" false
    null
    getaddressesbylabel "secondkey"
    {
      "1NgoEzuMrPDkadgBgmRQEfsDsK9oWhiEXH": {
        "purpose": "receive"
      },
      "38xKLmVWq37FYPh7wyWYzVRAcvLkTVgVfa": {
        "purpose": "receive"
      },
      "bc1qahshdh9ftqt7ayycxzq65zzg7c47vgd3sfwu99": {
        "purpose": "receive"
      }
    }

    02ceb6cbbcdbdf5ef7150682150f4ce2c6f4807b349827dcdbdd1f2efa885a2630 = 17s2b9ksz5y7abUm92cHwG8jEPCzK3dLnT !!!
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    August 30, 2021, 09:21:49 AM
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    who can find privkey for point
    Anyone who can find privkey for the first point. Calculating "fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364141-puzzle120privKey" will do the trick, it's just one subtraction away.

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    02ceb6cbbcdbdf5ef7150682150f4ce2c6f4807b349827dcdbdd1f2efa885a2630 = 17s2b9ksz5y7abUm92cHwG8jEPCzK3dLnT
    Of course, but your second point will have 03 prefix.

    Edit: 19494200143356336257404688340550956357466777176798681646526975620299854296492 = ending with two (even) = 02 prefix
    96297889093959859166166296668136951495803207488841882392930608387608980375171 = ending with one (odd) = 03 prefix
    Quote from: satoshi
    I've moved on to other things.

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    August 30, 2021, 09:28:00 AM
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    Quote from: vjudeu on August 30, 2021, 09:21:49 AM
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    who can find privkey for point
    Anyone who can find privkey for the first point. Calculating "fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364141-puzzle120privKey" will do the trick, it's just one subtraction away.

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    02ceb6cbbcdbdf5ef7150682150f4ce2c6f4807b349827dcdbdd1f2efa885a2630 = 17s2b9ksz5y7abUm92cHwG8jEPCzK3dLnT
    Of course, but your second point will have 03 prefix.

    Edit: 19494200143356336257404688340550956357466777176798681646526975620299854296492 = ending with two (even) = 02 prefix
    96297889093959859166166296668136951495803207488841882392930608387608980375171 = ending with one (odd) = 03 prefix

    Maybe privkey of second point is smale then privkey of first pont.... No one thant try find and think about. Twe have 1 privkey at apper range of n, so, maybe there is a another key what will be smaller because upper range.

    Any Ideas how to find privkey of point 1, using available information about second point and scalar ?

    And we have a information about public key from scalar 0xfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364140 === 1JPbzbsAx1HyaDQoLMapWGoqf9pD5uha5m

    Any positive ideas ?
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    August 30, 2021, 09:35:10 AM
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    Maybe privkey of second point is smale then privkey of first pont
    If the creator of the puzzle is honest, then it is not. But there is no range proof, so we can only guess.
    Quote from: satoshi
    I've moved on to other things.

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    August 30, 2021, 09:45:28 AM
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    Quote from: vjudeu on August 30, 2021, 09:35:10 AM
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    Maybe privkey of second point is smale then privkey of first pont
    If the creator of the puzzle is honest, then it is not. But there is no range proof, so we can only guess.

    This is anoter 2   point, now we  multiply to mach small scalar and get 120 puzle

    (0xa22a23afde5da08ef95a102722b864597a04dd97bb618257e5bf0b972c6283df ,  0x8efe7ff38efc1799c51dfc7498081379acede5576b6717f155bdf8938d73d04b)

    * Privkey:  107361793816595537 Privkey.HEX: 02 0x17d6cfb8ee30c51 =



    (93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552, 19494200143356336257404688340550956357466777176798681646526975620299854296492) - 17s2b9ksz5y7abUm92cHwG8jEPCzK3dLnT 120 BIT

    Now second point looks like easy for brute Yes? Can someone find privkey for this point ?
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    August 30, 2021, 08:47:30 PM
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    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEBAxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552
    96297889093959859166166296668136951495803207488841882392930608387608980375171

    03ceb6cbbcdbdf5ef7150682150f4ce2c6f4807b349827dcdbdd1f2efa885a2630

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    August 30, 2021, 09:11:36 PM
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    Quote from: batareyka on August 30, 2021, 08:47:30 PM



    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEBAxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552
    96297889093959859166166296668136951495803207488841882392930608387608980375171

    03ceb6cbbcdbdf5ef7150682150f4ce2c6f4807b349827dcdbdd1f2efa885a2630

    What is it ?
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    August 30, 2021, 09:31:11 PM
    Last edit: August 30, 2021, 09:42:45 PM by batareyka
     #10
    Hello . This is the returned half of the private key.
    Example.
    If private key 1111111111
    its public key 02e8f99fcdab7e2f5b37acfe8627c8d5d49b65c4c166c1bfe95f9d73386753a0ec

    Its returned half FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEBAAEDCE6AF48A03BBFD25D9DE1475252
    public key 03e8f99fcdab7e2f5b37acfe8627c8d5d49b65c4c166c1bfe95f9d73386753a0ec
    If we add two private keys together we get 10000000000--
    Actually and here
    93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552, 19494200143356336257404688340550956357466777176798681646526975620299854296492

    93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552: 96297889093959859166166296668136951495803207488841882392930608387608980375171

    If you add them we get a private key.
    100000000000000000000000000000000.



    Of course, not everything is so simple.
    Inverted half.
    It is necessary to make some mathematical operations, but take my word for it.

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    August 30, 2021, 09:36:50 PM
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    Quote from: batareyka on August 30, 2021, 09:31:11 PM
    Hello . This is the returned half of the private key.
    Example.
    If private key 1111111111
    its public key 02e8f99fcdab7e2f5b37acfe8627c8d5d49b65c4c166c1bfe95f9d73386753a0ec

    Its returned half FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEBAAEDCE6AF48A03BBFD25D9DE1475252
    public key 03e8f99fcdab7e2f5b37acfe8627c8d5d49b65c4c166c1bfe95f9d73386753a0ec
    If we add two private keys together we get 10000000000--
    Actually and here
    93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552, 19494200143356336257404688340550956357466777176798681646526975620299854296492

    93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552: 96297889093959859166166296668136951495803207488841882392930608387608980375171

    If you add them we get a private key.
    100000000000000000000000000000000.

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    August 30, 2021, 10:26:16 PM
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    Quote from: batareyka on August 30, 2021, 09:31:11 PM
    Hello . This is the returned half of the private key.
    Example.
    If private key 1111111111
    its public key 02e8f99fcdab7e2f5b37acfe8627c8d5d49b65c4c166c1bfe95f9d73386753a0ec

    Its returned half FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEBAAEDCE6AF48A03BBFD25D9DE1475252
    public key 03e8f99fcdab7e2f5b37acfe8627c8d5d49b65c4c166c1bfe95f9d73386753a0ec
    If we add two private keys together we get 10000000000--
    Actually and here
    93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552, 19494200143356336257404688340550956357466777176798681646526975620299854296492

    93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552: 96297889093959859166166296668136951495803207488841882392930608387608980375171

    If you add them we get a private key.
    100000000000000000000000000000000.



    Of course, not everything is so simple.
    Inverted half.
    It is necessary to make some mathematical operations, but take my word for it.

    Sory Bro, but then I multiply   100000000000000000000000000000000 to fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364140 resut is not

    120 puzzle, so, 100000000000000000000000000000000  is not private key for any of

    93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552, 19494200143356336257404688340550956357466777176798681646526975620299854296492

    93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552: 96297889093959859166166296668136951495803207488841882392930608387608980375171

    yes ?

    and then I add

    93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552, 19494200143356336257404688340550956357466777176798681646526975620299854296492

    to

    93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552: 96297889093959859166166296668136951495803207488841882392930608387608980375171

    result = 0

     Huh Huh Huh Huh
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    August 31, 2021, 05:40:15 AM
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    Quote from: COBRAS on August 30, 2021, 08:46:15 AM
    ...
    (93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552 : 96297889093959859166166296668136951495803207488841882392930608387608980375171 : 1)
    *
    fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364140
    =
    (93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552, 19494200143356336257404688340550956357466777176798681646526975620299854296492)
    ...

    fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364140 = N-1
    A * (N-1) = -A

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    ...
    and then I add
    93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552, 19494200143356336257404688340550956357466777176798681646526975620299854296492
    to
    93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552: 96297889093959859166166296668136951495803207488841882392930608387608980375171
    result = 0
    ...

    A + (-A) = 0

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    Elliptic curve symmetry. Such a magic. Wow!

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    Quote from: batareyka on August 30, 2021, 09:31:11 PM
    Hello . This is the returned half of the private key.
    Example.
    If private key 1111111111
    its public key 02e8f99fcdab7e2f5b37acfe8627c8d5d49b65c4c166c1bfe95f9d73386753a0ec

    Its returned half FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEBAAEDCE6AF48A03BBFD25D9DE1475252
    public key 03e8f99fcdab7e2f5b37acfe8627c8d5d49b65c4c166c1bfe95f9d73386753a0ec
    If we add two private keys together we get 10000000000--
    Actually and here
    93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552, 19494200143356336257404688340550956357466777176798681646526975620299854296492

    93499419120076195219278579763555015417347613618260420189054155605804414805552: 96297889093959859166166296668136951495803207488841882392930608387608980375171
    If you add them we get a private key.
    100000000000000000000000000000000.



    Of course, not everything is so simple.
    Inverted half.
    It is necessary to make some mathematical operations, but take my word for it.

    https://privatekeys.pw/key/0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001111111111
    Public Key:
    C 02e8f99fcdab7e2f5b37acfe8627c8d5d49b65c4c166c1bfe95f9d73386753a0ec

    https://privatekeys.pw/key/FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEBAAEDCE6AF48A03BBFD25D9DE1475252
    Public Key:
    C 03cbd44d2c58745225ca7a4abb9bfacac2007c29556f8780655a2159280fcbbb5f

    So the public key differs from the value you gave.

    How do you get the corresponding key?

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    September 12, 2022, 09:15:01 AM
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    0xfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364141 - 0x1111111111 = 0xfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e7bbf253030

    Pubkey = 03E8F99FCDAB7E2F5B37ACFE8627C8D5D49B65C4C166C1BFE95F9D73386753A0EC
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