Decentralized republics is possibly how this would work, though. As long as there was a fall back for people who didn't want to opt-in

Here is one possible scenario for an RBE "authority."
Try this as a thought experiment. Imagine being connected to a lie detector that measured respiration, heart rate, blood flow, etc. You do this voluntarily along with many other well educated experts on particular issues. You were then to engage in conversation with your peers on how to solve some societal problems. How trustworthy would the results of this discussion be? Would this method help eliminate corruption?

I suppose you will say that they will all be trained to deceive all of these tests by going through super spy training. Ok, we'll up the ante. If they are caught lying, they will be further tested and if they fail or refuse, they will be eliminated from the process. It's possible this will be done in error, but they may appeal to volunteer for deeper examination including brain scan.

All I'm saying is that there are solutions to problems and that I'm sick and tired of people who criticize with nothing to add to the conversation.

Can you give me an example of how you can achieve the design and construction of an aircraft, an Airbus A380 for instance, without using money at any stage? Are you gonna do barter for any parts, IP, material, labour? So buy RollsRoyce engines with camels? And you sell the A380 to a collective of farmers in exchange for a couple tons of corn? I am really looking forward to reading a non silly explanation of how such a thing as a A380 would happen without money...

Many things are built purely on spec. What you get afterward depends on what you value.

cbeast is a moron or trolling. Seems like a com major to me though...

What have you got against the masseuse-bots? They can look after your *every* need you know.

I'm only playing devil's advocate here - as I tend to think money will always exist.. but if you're going to go as far as postulating star-trek style replicators,
why would you want anything at all from another human which wasn't given out of pure willingness to give/please?

Couldn't it be that in a society awash with replicators and robots, the very idea of accepting any good or service from a person who 'expected' some reward would seem 'ugly' or 'perverse'?

Interesting to hear you say that.

Um. Building on spec means building something without being paid up front. Not at any stage up front. What does that not answer?

I don't know what qualifies as a non silly explanation of a society where things such as the A380 are produced without money or barter, because that probably is silly to you. But I will explain it regardless.

The design of the aircraft would be done just like it is done now, by the efforts of scientists and engineers. These are people who want to work in designing aircrafts, their livelihoods are provided automatically as is for everyone else. This is just something they like to do.

The actual design of the aircraft and the parts used could differ because price wouldn't be an issue. What would be an issue is the resource efficiency of a certain part and the system would assign a number to this, based on all the relevant indicators. Keep in mind that this system would know the exact scarcity levels of every known raw material on Earth, its depletion rate, pollution potentials etc. It would obviously also know all the information related to the technical strength of that material and would help the engineers in choosing the right materials for the plane.

Now this system does not know these things just like that, we need scientists to gather that data. That is why the first step of RBE is always survey. It means that scientists of different fields must actually input all the data in the computer before the computer can actually do anything with it. We can build a computer model of RBE but as long as we don't have real data (which is mostly protected by individual corporations today) it's not a real model.

Continuing with this exercise, the aircraft itself would be built in the same way as it is built know, by machines. The materials would be mined by machines, refined by machines and transported by automated transport vehicles to the factory where it is finally assembled. A small amount of humans are needed to supervise the production and fix the machines in case of issues. These are again people who both want to do it and are qualified to do it.

This is not very different from how it is done now. Most production is done by machines. In RBE there would naturally be more machinery because of one of the goals in the society would be to get rid of unwanted human jobs as fast as possible. We have so many jobs today that can be automated with the level of technology we have now, if we just wanted to. The biggest obstacle for this is money, which causes corporations to often choose cheap human labor instead of machines. It has nothing to do with our actual technology and resources. But this will change soon even in this system.

Finally, there is a bigger question here. Do we even want to build A380's? Is aircraft the most efficient way to travel, long term? These would have to be calculated. Maybe we decide to start building tunnels for very high speed maglev trains instead. All transit systems would be re-evaluated and one thing is for sure, traffic based on private cars is the first thing to go. It's so inefficient it sickens me.

A lot of the preferences people have are based on what they are used to. This has been proven regarding taste, people from different cultures value different tastes in food because they have been eating certain kind of food ever since they were children.

To me it's simply a matter of getting used to different kind of service. No longer would you have a human barber, or a human at the cash register or a human serving at the bar. Possibly most massage would be machine based as well. I doubt people would kill one another if they don't have a willing human masseur as their close friend.

None of this takes away from socialising with other human beings, in fact it enhances it. The socialising would be with other people using the service, with your friends and members of the community. People would simply get used to the fact that you don't talk to the bartender because there isn't one anymore. This is exactly the same as the disappearence of the elevator man. People have gotten used to that pretty well, I'd say.

The fact is that by doing this we remove the need for wage slavery, people can become so much more than the mundane jobs most are forced to do today. It's a relief of massive proportions. I'd like to note that there would be no force in this, if someone wants to be a bartender or a barber even though we offer a machine instead, they can continue to do it. The point is to automate jobs that people don't want to do and jobs that machines are a lot better at.