It brings inconvenience, uncomfortable experience for users but what is your criteria for an acceptable good system?

For me, it must be a system that won't have technical ability to revert transactions, charge backs. It won't censor transactions which are broadcasted by users. You have all these with bitcoin blockchain and you have freedom to use low fee rate and wait longer or higher fee rate and enjoy faster confirmation.

If they use centralized exchanges, their withdrawals will be proceeded with high transaction fee rate enough to be confirmed by miners. They won't have to wait too long if I am correct.

If they use non custodial wallets and broadcast transactions by themselves, they must use opt-in Replace-by-Fee. They can bump their transaction fee rate any time when they lose their patience or have more urgent need.

Take it past there to do not use a wallet that does not support RBF *by default* IMO that check box should be checked by default.
And give a warning if it's not.
Not the other way around.

I screwed up the other day, and did not notice that for whatever reason RBF was not checked and set a lower fee non RBF transaction. Not a big deal since I just did a CPFP with the change. But, I tend to make BTC transactions a few times a week and would like to think that I know what I am doing.

If I can screw that up, then anyone can.

-Dave

bitcoin is code.
code creates rules

summary: create rules

for instance those that spam transactions every block take away space for normal folk. whilst pushing up the fees for normal folk

there actually can be a rule where transactions which have a utxo of under 6(~an hour) have to be the ones that pay a premium or be given a score rating where it multiplies a priority score needed to be in a block

there used to be one

put it this way imagine you had a score requirement of priority of 1440
where each confirmation your utxo has earns 10 points meaning if you only spend your value once a day you get priority defacto. meaning you can pay low amount such as 1sat/byte
where as if you are only holding a utxo if 1 confirm you only have 10 points and the only way to earn the other 1430 points is to pay a higher fee. where by each sat per byte = 10 points. meaning if you want to spam every block you have to pay 143sat per byte

that way not everyone is punished. just the spammers

things like this dont affect normal folk. because usually exchanges only sweep deposit addresses once a day or week anyway. and put it into cold wallet and only split cold wallets once a month. and then the can assign that down to 30 splits for each day of the month. meaning when people withdraw they are using yesterdays-upto a month ago's utxo, so pay the lowest fee to get funds out of an exchange.
same goes for normal folk who just do p2p. normal people are not buying products/goods/services every 10 minutes. they only buy one thing a day,month, year so they wont be paying premium under this idea

and to enforce it. if a block contains transactions not meting the priority score one way or another. the block is rejected. meaning pools are made to obide by the rule or not get their block accepted.. as is the way of consensus

and before the corporate sponsored shills of dev idolation, cry that it cant be done or that it goes against cores corporate roadmap of brutalising bitcoin to promote other networks.. well who cares about populating other networks. thats the game for scumbags
plus there is already a BAD fee mechanism in play that makes legacy tx 4x. meaning that while they want to pretend it cant/shouldnt be done. its proven that it has and is being done that a fee mechanism can be in play. .. but this time a better one that actually helps bitcoiners. not the corporate plan of offboarding users to other networks

Not a bad idea, but developers can’t hold miners to account because this isn’t like a centralized entity that a company or person would be charge to do something or receive sanction. This is an open field where everyone can be a miner and take any transactions they feel like into there blocks. We can’t just charge the miners to take lower transaction fees without also pointing fingers at the amount they spend on mining equipments. After spending that amount on those equipments and sometimes on electricity, it will not be logical to accuse them of prioritizing high fees moreover who isn’t on this for the profit purposes.

The first thing solution now is to educate bitcoiners about the knowledge of wallet to be used so as to bump fees when needed. Secondly to find a way to filter this ordinal or BRC20 tokens off the blockchain. Thirdly with more adoption probably the cost of mining would reduce and will have more miners which will increase the decentralization of it

That's truly a big concern for everyone and there should be some rules for the miners to include the low fee transactions in their blocks. But, the question arises that who would set those rules because miners are the real bosses till this date and  who could force them to add the low-fee transactions in the blocks? The answer is no one.

There can't be a solution for the problem because if the miners are forced to do anything that's against their will, they will leave away such systems where they can't earn a lot. The miners are basically doing the mining thing as a business and any businessmen would prefer to earn as much from a business as possible. If the miners were doing it for humanity purpose or for love of technology then that would be another thing.

The best option for anyone is to understand the basics of Bitcoin transactions so that they can choose the preferable wallet software according to their needs. The knowledge regarding such things should be a compulsory thing, and everyone should prefer the wallet software that supports features like RBF, and CPFP, because these features are very helpful for stuck transactions.

In every problem, there's always a solution, though it may take a little while before this solution arrives but there will always be a rescue means, for the sake of those that are used to bitcoin transactions and network, they can always pump the fee if the transaction is not coming faster as expected and provided they aren't using a centralized exchange in making the transaction, those inexperienced in this can always choose a high priority for their transaction but the cost for that is at their expense which is fair.


I believe i everything there's always a peak period for it performance, maybe this is one of their own, though we are all being affected while they enjoys such, maybe we should be getting used to this already becau after the whole blocks have been completely mined, the miners will have to depend on the transaction fee for thier reward.


Or maybe the developers should take the ordinals completely away the blockspace on the blockchain to layer 2 where transactions are less busy there, this may be a solution that can last for now.



It can't work that way since it's already programmed by transaction fee rate and not by randomly selection or order of time each transaction was made, put yourself in their shoe, you will also consider the option of higher transaction fees as priority first before others.

This will backfire and will simply make things worse.

If you have 1 million transactions in the mempool there is no way for them to be confirmed in a shorter time, what this "solution" would do is simply reduce the space available by allowing spammers to occupy parts of the block space with low 1 sat/b fee, with just a few hundred dollars you can fill a block and normal users would have to compete again between themselves on a smaller part of the block cause a spammer is taking advantage of it.
Besides, let's assume somebody will want to attack the network like this, as I posted in another topic, it will take a guy less than 10 BTC to fill one week of tx, how will this solution that will confirm the cheapest spam attack solve anything?


Nobody stops anyone to buy hardware, power them up and pointing them to a community mining pool that only builds blocks with fees under 5 sat/b.
Oh wait, there is something, called $.The same $ you don't want to pay in the first place! See the problem?


That's not how mining works, you can have everyone on this planet hosting a 1GW mining farm in his basement, and you will still have 144 blocks a day.

Also bitcoin was specifically not designed that way for many reasons. The main reason is, that it is harder to spam the network if you need to pay higher and higher fees for it. Since there is no central authority that can block specific users, this is the only way to ensure that an attacker will think twice if it is worth it to spam the network.
The other thing however is the block size. If it would be my decision the block size would be doubled tomorrow. We are not in 2011 any more, yet still the network has the same capacity (with millions of users instead of just a few hundred).

Depends on how you look at it. If you want a sustainable, deflationary, decentralized currency, then you should want hundreds of thousands, if not millions, transactions in the mempool, because that's where the mining income will come from. If you want a crappy, get-rich-quick shitcoin, that provides no tangible benefit to the world, then yeah, no need to pay high fees. There's fiat.

Binance recently suspended withdrawals due to high fees, even if you tolerated it financially. Just another reason to avoid such exchanges.

That's unfortunate. Does this mean you never publish RBF transactions before? I suggest moving to another wallet that supports RBF by default (or those that offer more coin control in general).

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One of the easier solutions is to use other networks if you need a fast transaction. RBF is also mandatory if you still want to force to use Bitcoin when the network is busy and being spammed by others. I believe you should view the "long time to confirm" as the security required to make sure your transaction is irreversible. We've seen many rollbacks on some altcoin networks before, I don't think that's a good thing to aim for. CMIIW.