I think depending on how much he or she has invested in bitcoin in order to see a real difference between the amount invested and amount returned. If you are someone who had invested huge, you can probably see huge returns immediately meanwhile if you only invested a few then you can not see much difference after only a while so you may have to wait and hold for more until you see some really significant returns.

When we talk about the amount invested and the amount returned, we need to take into account the percentage of the return instead of its value because if someone is investing $1,000 and getting 10% in return and someone investing $100 and getting the same percentage in returns would essentially have the same return percentage but the value of their returns will be different but the impact will be the same.

$100 for someone who can easily afford to invest $1,000 has the same value as the $10 that the person who invested $100 earned. So it's never about the amount but it's about affordability and level of satisfaction. I know someone who invests more earns more, but someone investing less might also be earning a lot based on their income or financial capabilities.

You can't hold it forever. It becomes like hoarding without application. You seem to have something, but it doesn’t affect your life in any way. I think the point of holding is to make a profit. And if the profit is unrealized, then it is not a profit at all. Therefore, the holder must have a goal in which he cashes out at least part of his position.

Its not holding anymore if they don't have plans and just think about holding it without proper timeline since maybe as you said it will became hording. But he should set a plan regarding on his holdings since if he just do that for the sake of he has something to tell that he's a bitcoin holder then maybe there might be a chance that he could lose his bitcoin especially if there's sudden unfortunate changes will occur. Proper planning is important so they can set some goals on what year they should sell since its important to secure our profit if our targets has been meet.

Also its different story if there's an emergency situation happen and your emergency funds is not enough to cover up your needs then its good to sell your holdings so that you can get a solution on your problem then I think this is also a somehow good scenario to sell but if there's nothing like this happen and everything is in normal situation then continue to hold for better future.

While there are some people who think this way, personally I see HODLing as a little bit of an exaggeration of what I really want to do with my crypto, which is to hold them for an extended period of time, take a little bit of it as profit and keep the rest within the system so I don't take off my feet on the proverbial door, and then rinse and repeat, until either bitcoin dies or I die. This is the concept I have been playing around with for a while now, and I'm pretty sure a good amount of people in this forum believes and behaves the same way as I do as well.

There's just some cases where you can't really do this though, in countries where crypto as a whole is banned, crypto preppers who airlock their cryptocurrencies to make sure they don't get stolen. And the sad,sad population of people who still had their hard drives with their bitcoins but forgot their password so they can't get a hold of the money that's in there.

The rest of us, we should be good with what we're doing right now, invest a lot, take out a little when the money grows, rinse and repeat.

IMO, there is no safe haven asset. Bitcoin investment also has risks, the price also fluctuates and unpredictable. I don't really understand why you think Bitcoin is anti-inflationary, I think the assumption is too exaggerated. I also disagree if you assume bank is like a disease. In a certain situation, bank also helps us to have a proper financial system. Sure, Bitcoin makes us to have a better financial in the future. But we can't discredit the existing financial system.

It is good that you plan to hold for 5-6 years. However, you need to understand the 4 years cycle of bearish-bullish. You don't choose the wrong time for buying a lot of Bitcoin for you assets. The bearish season is the best time for buying, meanwhile the bullrun season is the time for taking profits. Personally, I don't set certain years for holding, I just adjust the 4 years cycle. I think it is the most effective way to determine the goal/target.

Anyway, why 2030 the market should be mature? Is the current market not mature?
Honestly, I don't really understand what you mean with 'mature market'. 

If it has been bought and has received profits in accordance with our expectations that we have previously determined whether it is 50% or must be above that number, it is up to us, and it is not funny if the profit has been qualified for us to withdraw postponed again.

Of course, BTC if invested and really gets a maximum profit of at least 5 years and above or longer is even better. There's always another chance if we really want to take it back after you've taken advantage.

Yes, there is no guarantee that it will repeat the same thing, but we see that bitcoin has so far done the same thing and proven itself, only self-validation can be relied on to confirm this, bitcoin adoption is not so wide and technology is still developing, so bitcoin is one of the pioneers for the future, even though it is a delusion but who knows that it has the possibility to happen.


Of course trading every day is very inconvenient where we have to look at the market every day and many things have to be considered every day, and daily bitcoin is sometimes flat and sometimes also drops, what I mean is to collect when bitcoin drops or there is a decline like in 2022, it can also be said as a slow accumulation and we sell it in 2025 which is the 4th year in this cycle.

Some people follow the rule that you should only invest what you can afford to lose. So you can just invest a few extra money you don’t exactly need anymore so you hold for as long as you can if possible. Even if you are not the wealthiest man on earth, discipline and determination are two of the things that can make you successful in anything that you do.